@PCHasGoneMad @Idk34368415 There is a very clear line and that is: an acute viral pandemic which has caused 600,000 extra deaths over the past year compared to previous years. Obesity has been prevalent for many years, why the excess mortality in the past 2?
@iAmCynical34@PCHasGoneMad@__x_x___x@h3h3productions And moderately obese people are less likely to die than ideal weight people - probably a product of a poorly conducted study is my guess. But thats my point, the evidence is sketchy at best.
@PCHasGoneMad @Idk34368415 I agree with you but like I said - try to convice people who wont even get a needle that they need to change their entire diet and lifestyle.
@Idk34368415 @PCHasGoneMad It's about burden on the healthcare system - Is his approach subject to scientific scrutiny? no. Is it safe to approach covid in this way? who knows. Will his approach work for the next person? who knows. All of this poses a risk that he will take up a hospital bed/resources.
@Idk34368415 @__x_x___x@h3h3productions and I've had 3 vaccines and I'm entirely fine - like, cool story, nobody cares. The vaccine has been proven as harmless beyond any reasonable doubt.
@PCHasGoneMad@__x_x___x@h3h3productions Have fun convincing a hyper individualistic society about the benefits of weight loss to public health. It's already difficult enough to get everyone to put a simple needle in their arm. You are not going to solve a viral pandemic this way - natural immunity does not cut it.
@jasonguido225@__x_x___x@h3h3productions Agreed - but first you get the vaccine, then you sort out your obesity. On a larger scale - vaccines are available instantaneously. Combating the obesity epidemic is something thats already been happening and will continue to happen for hundreds of years.
@PCHasGoneMad@__x_x___x@h3h3productions Hasn't this been the rhetoric for the last 30 years? Don't people know this already? Which solution has more long term efficacy - telling people to lose weight, or giving them a vaccine which prevents them from dying in a safe manner.
@PCHasGoneMad@__x_x___x@h3h3productions The article you linked is an opinion piece - perhaps the weakest form of evidence you can find. The overarching evidence is conflicting - including this study published in nature https://t.co/tYrV3LLZz7
which suggests that obesity can reduce covid mortality in critically ill ppl.
@jasonguido225@__x_x___x@h3h3productions Watch his full podcast he says quote “ if you’re fat you’re already gone… you’re going to get a heart attack anyway”… what is the take there?
@Idk34368415 @__x_x___x@h3h3productions If you aren’t vaccinated then you are putting yourself at risk of dying from covid- which insurance company/ workplace would be comfortable knowing that you willingly made that decision? When you could’ve just put a spiky boi in your arm that takes 2 seconds and is harmless.
@Idk34368415 @__x_x___x@h3h3productions Joes covid approach , which he heavily publicises, encourages vaccine hesitancy. The man isn’t vaccinated himself, actions speak louder than words. Bottom line is that people do have a choice - they can choose to be unfit to work and stay unvaccinated, up to them I guess 🤷♂️
@__x_x___x@h3h3productions All of his statements are ignorant in this clip - even if “being in shape” helps with covid outcomes (no peer reviewed studies on this) how do you expect someone who is obese to immediately be in shape? Is he saying they deserver to die because they’re fat?
@dsic@CunningJamesIII@Houcemate @danielleweisber Reality for a lot of people is more like if the government cut off your arm and 3 fingers on your other side and then told you needed to craft oragami for the rest of your life to be able to afford a house