John Ceccarelli

Dad, Product Lead, Tinkerer

[Tom Krcha @tomkrcha]

Opus 4.8 vs Minimax M3 designs in @pencildev

guess which one is which? 🤷‍♂️

[NIK @ns123abc]

🚨BREAKING: OPENAI HAS BOUGHT WINDSURF FOR $3 BILLION DOLLAS

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

Using springdoc worked a lot better but uncovered some ugliness in generated code that I thought I had fixed - not all REST APIs using DTOs to define payloads. Ugh.

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

Strangely the thing that Windsurf is having the most problems with is generating accurate OpenAPI for REST APIs. Seems like this should be simple and I need it for generating the client. But each iteration just keeps introducing new garbage.

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

worried about whether i'll be able to keep Windsurf on track though with limited knowledge of JS/React

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

managed to vibe code my backend but that's because i know my way around java conceptually. now it's time to do the front-end, and i don't know JS. so asking ChatGPT to teach it to me.

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

Having cursor generate my prompts based on my existing code so that new code gets inserted correctly has put this shit on rails. I know, welcome to the party John...

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

@dbasch that's what beer is for

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

@dbasch Nah man my bad back loves my standing desk

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

I'm not technical enough to read through the code and figure out what my app is doing, so I asked Windsurf to document the architecture. The doc can't even get the API responses of the REST APIs right.

[ℏεsam @Hesamation]

it's time to revisit the 15 rules of vibe coding

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

Hard to tell if this is how real programmers work, like "I fix this bug, it exposes another" and you just iterate until everything is solid.

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

Update thread on product guy turned vibe coder

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

Building out the test suite is where shit got crazy. Went into a long loop of "test fails, let me try to fix that, oops more tests failed, let me try to fix that".

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

@Schlomo Once I learn this vibe coding shit i'm gonna need some crypto financing for whatever it is i build with it!

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

Is it weird that I ask ChatGPT for help on how to use Windsurf?

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

First thing I learned vibe programming with Windsurf - don’t try to let it install the software stack. Install everything yourself, get services running, etc before starting. (Bit worrying that it got install cmd for mongodb wrong.)

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

@dbasch are you generating these with AI?

[John Ceccarelli @JCeccarelli1]

I'm a tech-savvy product guy. 20+ yrs in developer tools and runtimes, mostly Java and JavaScript. I understand what all the moving parts do at a high level, but I can't code for shit.
Time try out vibe programming. I'm starting with Windsurf. Any tips?