Panth Rattan Master Tara Singh was invited to the foundation ceremony of the VHP along with Jain and Buddhist leaders because he had been openly challenging Nehru’s secularism and holding him to his pre-1947 promise to advance Sikh autonomy in Punjab.
In a conversation with Nehru, when asked if he was an Indian before a Sikh, he replied: “For me the Sikh Panth is first and the country comes second. No, that’s a mistake. The Panth comes first and second.”
In his own writings, his dedication to the cause of Sikh nationalism is abundantly clear and he spent his final years openly advocating for it. He also held interesting views about Hindu society that would not be considered particularly flattering by anyone without a serious comprehension problem.
In 1995, travelling late at night to Jalandhar, our taxi was stopped by Punjab Police.
I was ordered out. A circle of armed officers surrounded me. One pressed the cold barrel of a submachine gun against my forehead. I can still remember that feeling today.
In Punjabi they asked, “What is your father’s name?”
A friend had once given me one piece of advice: if the police stop you, speak only in English.
So I replied, “I’m sorry, I don’t understand. Can you speak in English?”
My London accent stopped them in their tracks.
They stepped away, argued among themselves for what felt like an eternity, then came back and asked the same question in broken English. I answered, then asked, “Don’t you want to know my name?”
No reply. More discussion.
A minute later, the officer holding the gun to my head was told to let me go.
Back in the taxi, my driver quietly said, “Whatever you said to them probably saved both our lives.”
Punjab 95/Sutlej has brought memories like this flooding back. Many lived through those years with stories they have carried in silence ever since.
@pengpatialvi I agree, as not all the Panth believes in Akaal Takht’s authority. The Panth is not a monolith and has people from diverse backgrounds. However centralising everyone under a single authority is against Guru Gobind Singh’s vision of a decentralised Khalsa and a recipe for disaster
Yet we have clear records from Punjabi Hindu temples themselves showing that Sikh chiefs in the early 1750s formally confirmed grants and lands belonging to the mahants, offering them full protection.
As I have said before, those of you from across the Jamuna remain so thoroughly one-shotted by Bollywood and WhatsApp history that you cannot resist talking complete nonsense.
The argument being advanced here rests on a false premise: that the kirpan exemption is some form of “preferential treatment”.
It is not.
British law contains countless exemptions, defences and accommodations where Parliament has recognised legitimate differences in circumstance. We make provision for religious dress, recognise conscientious objections, accommodate disabilities and permit numerous statutory defences across criminal law.
The question has never been whether exemptions should exist. The question is whether a particular exemption is justified.
The kirpan exemption has existed for decades. During that time, there has been no evidence that observant Sikhs carrying kirpans constitute a meaningful driver of knife crime or a threat to public safety.
Removing the exemption would therefore not be evidence-led policy. It would simply criminalise a long-established religious practice that has coexisted peacefully with British society for generations.
Furthermore, equality before the law does not mean treating everyone identically regardless of circumstance. British law has always distinguished between equality and uniformity. A diabetic, a wheelchair user, a police officer, a surgeon and a Sikh may all be treated differently under the law for legitimate reasons without any of them receiving “special treatment”.
If Reform wishes to argue that all religious accommodations should be abolished, it is entitled to make that case. But it should do so honestly.
The issue is not public safety. The issue is whether Britain remains a country confident enough to accommodate the peaceful traditions of loyal and law-abiding minorities.
For over a century Sikhs have served Britain in Parliament, the armed forces, policing, medicine, industry and public life while carrying the articles of faith that define their religion. There is no evidence that this accommodation has failed, and no compelling reason to dismantle it.
@officialsammyuk Better carry a pepperstray for any situation of emergency. Legalise self-defence so victims are capable to deter criminals and not rely on the incompetency of the police and government to help them.
@AlbionKai03@LarsRas007 Many of us have lived here for generations, have integrated into British society and are no more foreign than anyone else born and raised in this country. Being British and having Indian heritage are not mutually exclusive.
@AlbionKai03@LarsRas007 Bloody hell, the amount of hate 😂😂.
Yeah, people were called “British subjects”, and there were also terms like “British Indian”. But the Empire is gone now, and “British Indian” is a normal and accepted label today.
@WhiteVanguard01 The government took away the rights of natives to arm themselves. The government acted incompetently when thousands of girls were being raped by Pakistani men. All this has resulted in people’s frustration, and they are taking their anger out on commoners by being tribal.
@WhiteVanguard01 Although I understand the frustration, I feel like it’s being directed towards the wrong people. The main culprit behind all this mess in the UK is the government itself. The government flooded the nation with migrants without a solid vetting process.
@AlbionKai03@LarsRas007 Nah, the British identity was created by the Empire as an effort to unify different parts of the world that it controlled.
But if you want to limit the term to the island, then technically there’s no such thing as British either; it’s just English, Scottish, and Welsh people.
Reem is spot on! Why are we banned from defending ourselves, meanwhile those who are committing assault crimes are also committing crimes by obtaining banned items.
Having pepper spray banned is only harming innocent law abiding people.