@BowTiedAsset @Ogden77870 @EliotWilson2 @btharris93 Let me rephrase then. As an American, would you be arrested in Russia for calling for a foreign power to invade and overthrow the Russian government?
@BowTiedAsset @Ogden77870 @EliotWilson2 @btharris93 The British person quoted at the beginning of this thread states that the he welcomes the invasion of a foreign power and hopes it overthrows his government. Can you as a Russian also publicly declare you wish a foreign power would invade Russia and overthrow its government?
@FxStar826@speed_ramming@Tyras_Mikhail And what made the Soviet invasion of Manchuria so successful? Could it perhaps have been that American naval superiority, air superiority, and land victories in the pacific had crippled Japanese resource access, war manufacturing, and logistical capabilities?
@FxStar826@speed_ramming@Tyras_Mikhail What made Japan more afraid of the Soviets who lacked the naval power to threaten mainland Japan as opposed to the United States who had said naval power and also just dropped two nukes on them? If it’s undeniable you can provide a source
@FxStar826@speed_ramming@Tyras_Mikhail How were the Americans able to get their planes close enough to Japan to drop nukes on them? Were there perhaps other naval and land battles in the pacific where Americans decisively won without nukes allowing them to capture Japanese airfields closer to Japan proper?
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma Because if it made the war measurably worse then it was absolutely a big deal and if it wasn’t a big deal and didn’t measurably make the war worse then by what metric is signing bombs so horrific?
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma You’re saying in the same sentence that signing bombs in ww2 measurably worsened the war while also saying that you never claimed it was a massive deal. That seems slightly contradictory
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma So to clarify we have now gone from signing bombs being the “rallying cry of axis citizens to the war effort” to “one of many many things the Japanese (who already have a culture that elevates sacrifice for the emperor) used to radicalize kamikazes who already volunteered.”
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma Also, if it didn’t provide more motivation and was just used to negligible effect then this no longer supports your original point (signing bombs is bad because it hurts the feelings of fascist civilians and makes them want to rally and kill people more)
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma Do you have a source that the OWI pushed for the signing of bombs for propaganda? Or is this gonna be another “oh yeah I read it somewhere. Can’t tell you where though”
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma Like I find it very difficult to believe that writing messages on bombs would have done more to galvanize the axis public into joining the war than either the actual dropping of those bombs or the actually documented German effort to dehumanize the allies as gangsters and jews.
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma I feel that if this was such a massive deal that served as the huge rallying cry of mass outrage for axis civilians to join the war that you make it out to be you would have better proof for your claim than “oh yeah I read it somewhere. Can’t tell you where though.”
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma I feel like “the Nazis were hypocrites” is a pretty good counterpoint when your argument for why signing bombs is bad is “the Nazis had their feefees hurt when the allies did it eighty years ago.”
@sportsarecool5@underwire6783@ArmandDoma Any actual sources that axis civilians were influenced to join the war specifically because of bombs being signed? Or that their governments even touched on it? Because if there is one it just makes axis civilians hypocrites because the Germans were doing the exact same thing