@paleochristcon It’s very satisfying to watch Andrew constantly catch Candace trying to skew the debate to her grounds by removing all objective standards. I’m loosing trust that the debate will happen though — she’s pretending to want it, but really doesn’t.
Accusations of having used AI to write a well thought piece/article is common practices now amongst the intellectually lazy and cowardly. It’s a new form of insult, designed so that these logic dodgers gain a false sense of confidence by convincing themselves that they do not have to address uncomfortable claims, having become satisfied with themselves for not having to use their intellect to address any claims that “are not made by the person who made them, but made by a robot”. It’s dehumanising and by design.
@elhigadodmarita muy buen análisis. Gracias!
I think I should rephrase… Disclosure Day is in fact intended as anti-Christian, or so it seems to me to be very obvious. However, precisely because the truth is told despite of the artist’s intentions, Spielberg seems to have had a few small Freudian slips that portray Christianity in fact as the only remedy to the coming (evil) delusion. I don’t believe he intended that, but that’s how I took it.
Far from discouraging Christians, the movie is giving clues to why only Christianity is the answer.
Everyone seems to believe that Disclosure Day is an anti-Christian movie. Spielberg may well have intended it to be that way, but that was not really my reading.
***spoiler alert***
Yes, it does try to ridicule Christianity at times, for instance by mocking the nun’s spineless Christian spirit. But as a wise man once said (I won’t say who to not embarrass @andrewklavan for crediting him), “it’s not about what an artist thinks he is transmitting, it’s about what he actually transmits. The artist (an actual artist) is a conduit of truth, and even if he intends to transmit a lie, truth will have its way through him one way or another”. In paraphrasing with my own words, but that’s the gist.
In the movie, Noah Scanlon (the antagonist), tries to control, or “possess”, the character Jane (the protagonist’s - Daniel - girlfriend) with an alien technology. Everybody understands that what is happening is evil - everybody. Interestingly enough, Jane, at the beginning of the attempted “possession”, is holding a crucifix. As the antagonist works to control Jane, Jane holds the crucifix harder and harder, until she draws blood in the palm of her hand. Throughout that struggle, Jane is “still there”, struggling to fight off the “possession”. The struggle ends the second her will to struggles fades, which is the moment she drops the crucifix… and the struggle ends right that moment. Now she is possessed, and the antagonist has full control of her.
So Jane was still “alive” only while holding the crucifix. Only by keeping her mind on Christ. When she gives up, she’s gone, and becomes a zombie.
Fast forward to the car scene when Daniel and Jane are escaping in a stolen secret services car. Jane is about to stab Daniel while he drives (she’s under the antagonist’s control because of the alien technology)… Daniel looks at her in eyes… and she seems to momentarily wake up. Suddenly she’s struggling again against the influence of the alien technology controlling her… and with a huge effort, instead of stabbing Daniel, she stabs the wound that the cross had caused her in the palm of her hand. In other words, Christ took the stab addressed to Daniel. Christ saved Daniel and Jane. Christ spared Daniel’s life by taking on himself the death that was meant for Daniel.
And the protagonists can continue with their stories.
The movie Isa huge pile of crap… except for the Christian symbolism it contains. Spielberg may not have intended it that way (or yes?), I don’t know… but the movie is actually presenting Christianity as the only way out from the influence of alien forces, the only cure from becoming a zombie.
“Ves esta espada? El Príncipe de las Tinieblas me la vendió. Con la agudeza de un rayo atraviesa hueso y tuétano sin piedad, y el mundo entero es el blanco de mi golpe”… “Con Satán he hecho mi pacto”.
Escrito por Karl Marx en sus poesías.
Y aquí un extracto de una carta dirigida a Karl, escrita por su propio padre:
"A veces mi corazón se deleita al pensar en tí y en tu futuro. Y, sin embargo, a veces no puedo librarme de ideas que despiertan en mí tristes presentimientos y temores cuando, como alcanzado por un rayo, me asalta el pensamiento: ¿está tu corazón en armonía con tu cabeza, con tus talentos? ¿Tiene espacio para los sentimientos terrenales y más suaves, que en este valle de lágrimas son esencialmente consoladores para un hombre sensible? Y puesto que ese corazón está evidentemente animado y gobernado por un demonio que no ha sido concedido a todos los hombres, ¿es ese demonio celestial o faustiano?”
Ni entro en el número de muertos causados por la espada que le vendió Satanás (el marxismo).
Catolicismo y Marxismo son 100% incompatibles. Quién se autodenomina católico-marxista es solo un marxista queriendo engañar a católicos.
There’s a lot of prejudice, I agree. Ironically, I myself have very mixed feelings about bullfighting. Most of the time I cannot get myself to see how the bull ends. I admit it pains me to see it. But there is a dignity, a profound courage, in bullfighting. There’s a profound dignity in the bull and the bullfighter facing each other that is invisible to the simple minded. And yet, I admit I cannot get myself to love it (nor hate it, needless to say).
I do know that I have no respect for those who see no positive meaning in bullfighting. And have particular contempt for those ‘antis’ that hide behind fake morals.
Viva o Brasil! 🇧🇷
This is a surprisingly honest response, infinitely more honest than any I’ve seen here. I also appreciate that you are not trying to hide behind fake morals. Let’s break down the meaning implicit in your statement:
1. ‘We’. Plural. It implies that I’m taking to a horde, not to thinking individuals.
2. ‘Don’t care’. It implies that you accept not to attend to reason (in its etymological sense) and are comfortable with it. I’m taking to a horde, after all.
3. ‘Rooting for the bulls’. Which implies, first, that you in fact do accept the rules of the game. Second, that you are against the humans, which is an admission of psychopathy.
I don’t mean this as an attack to you personally, as I don’t know you. But as a way to reveal what your (plural, I’m talking to a horde) real motivations are.
@armesillaconde quiere creer en Dios, pero no quiere. Quiere utilizarle para sus propósitos ideológicos, como estandarte cultural, pero siente una profunda y sincera atracción hacia los grandes Santos, Padres y Doctores de la Iglesia.
Dios está llamando a la puerta del alma de Armesilla, y poco a poco está entrando. Armesilla forma parte de Israel (del hebreo “aquellos que luchan, batallan, con Dios”).
@klaptenning@MaryCarmenOrd@Pontifex Of course, you’re in theological error. My apologies, I had overestimated you for no good reason. Or you’re a troll. Regardless, it’s not worth the argument.