@sparklewalker77 “Standard of education for ALL children” - Labour rhetoric btw! You assumed that Pvt school parents don’t care - pls substantiate this
And “elitist” is not only patronising but stereotyping, inaccurate and again, unsubstantiated
@sparklewalker77 Opinions are fine Sarah but they should be based on facts, just from your last few posts:
“Tax break” - nope, please read recent court case whom judged this as incorrect.
“Universities don’t claim to be charities” - actually most are in the U.K.
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@sparklewalker77 No assumptions on political leanings but given the extent on the vitriol and lies on this by the Labour gov- made an assumption that your stereotype driven views and misconceptions came from them, in which case stand corrected (they’re still wrong & unsubstantiated!)
@nfliving@BellaWallerstei Doesn’t mean it was the right or smart thing to do or will actually benefit anyone though Martin!
Labour said a lot of things - am not really seeing too many positives from those things either
@nfliving@BellaWallerstei And the majority of private tutors in the U.K. operate as sole traders or partnerships, both of which remained VAT exempt. The minority operating in businesses are “for profit” so I actually agree with VAT there!
@nfliving@BellaWallerstei So eg France, Germany, Sweden and many US states think it’s relevant but you don’t - ok!
You should think it’s relevant as it means you (assuming you are a taxpayer) don’t have to pay for these kids. Am also assuming you don’t think it’s relevant as you can’t provide a parallel
@nfliving@BellaWallerstei So less than 5% are international, although that does add to U.K. GDP (on top of any visiting family etc).
The other 95% are not being educated at taxpayer expense hence many countries do actually provide vouchers or tax credits to encourage this, they certainly do not tax it!
@sparklewalker77 Nope, misinformed and swallowing Labour lies and misinformation Sarah (not a knock on you as in fairness they have some great rhetoric). The recent court case exposed quite a few if you want to have a read
@sparklewalker77 @nige109 If that is your stance Sarah, it seems that you are blinkered to the stereotypes of Eton, Harrow et al. The reality being they are the exception not the rule
Perhaps ironically, those kind of schools will actually benefit financially & become even more exclusive from the edu tax
@Crofty_GameDev @NaomiRipon1111 @BellaWallerstei Many other countries provide actual subsidies to pvt schools. They do this as as the subsidy is less than it costs the taxpayer to educate a child within state provision, makes it accessible to more, encouraging opt out & overall relieves pressure and costs on the state
@Akademcalli@stephen_wigmore ??? Your point was that Pvt should pay VAT, which they do and have always done.
Whilst I am sure you are correct on the year in year reductions - the VAT paid by the NHS is still paid to the treasury whom fund them - so not quite sure how that supports your original point??
@Akademcalli@stephen_wigmore In health NHS and Pvt pay VAT on their purchases, although given the NHS is government funded that is a bit of a null point.
In education, state schools / LEA’s have always been able to claim back VAT on their purchases, Pvt schools only recently following the edu tax
@Londonphotoguy@stephen_wigmore Disagree, with the exception of speed of access for Pvt healthcare, both public and Pvt services vary wildly within each sector.
Most countries value pressure relief off public services through Pvt access, often even providing actual subsidies, they certainly don’t tax them
@llllllggggggees@OfficialLouRR Think you miss the point completely Clem, whilst the education tax clobbers those parents who choose to fully fund the cost of their kids education, people like Starmer who btw has wealth way above the average Pvt parent, instead chooses elite state at full cost to the taxpayer