@vchplz @Lilith_Atheist "Creation itself points to a creator"
What created the creator then?
I know your answer will be something along the lines of "God is infinite & outside of time & space, so don't conform to our laws"
This again will be a case for special exception.
Then around & round we go.
@vchplz @Lilith_Atheist Because it is something we don't know or have evidence for, atheists or scientists don't claim to know. By simply inserting God as the reason, is making a special exception.
@vchplz @Lilith_Atheist I've never heard an atheist say matter created itself.
I never said that the BBT explained creation. I said it explains the expansion of the universe from a singular point.
@vchplz @Lilith_Atheist Who said matter created itself? The BBT is the explanation of what is happening, expansion from a singular point, not what was before! To know what was before the BBT isn't possible, or is simply a claim.
@1pckt @pcgregory @Dwyertd You said "under Atheism" twice but it seems you don't understand what an atheist is... An atheist simply doesn't believe in any God, that's it!