They were killed because they openly began to ripple the govt on the orders of a foreign power. We already have the phone call of Nuland and Pyatt saying "fuck the EU" and they will not accept the EU's solution of early elections and will instead pressure Klitschko to enter a government with Yataenyuk and the fascist Tyahnybok providing confidence and supply. Believe it or not, countries look down on opposition parties conspiring with foreign powers. Or are only Americans allowed to be made at a foreign power of interfering in their elections? (Even though they are never mad at Israel for some reason)
Except when he tried to illegally prevent the Law on the Cabinet of Ministers from going into effect after his veto was overridden. And your country's elections are now a joke with dozens of states rigging their electoral districts for Congress so that Trump can hold onto the House with 33% approval. Yet somehow that's not enough of a reason to overthrow the govt but Yanukovich agreeing to early elections under an EU brokered agreement where the same OSCE repa that oversaw the 2010 elections would be there. The most amazing part to me about Americans is how they are convinced that they can explain every bad thing their country does because the party they are against was in charge but the same actions the president of their own party took are 100% iron clad solid and above board. The system they have you locked inside of is brilliant because you are living in a one party state but you think you have choice.
You mean like the Ukrainian artillery shelling civilian in Donetsk every day which doesn't rise to a provocation for an intervention one by one but cumulatively becomes an altogether different animal. Congratulations you've discovered salami slicing tactics decades after other political scientists. Very impressive.
@RockChartrand Usually the bank. If you think capitalists put their own money down instead of just accessing their lines of credit you don't know how modern industry works. What's to stop the state from lending the money to the people who do the work in that factory?
@GordonGChang We must never forget that you are a quarter century past publishimg this book which means your average drug addled homeless man on the street has the same chance of being right about China as you do.
Oh I see. So that's how rule or law and constitutional democracy works? Does that mean Trump should be bum rushed now because he is corrupt and lost all trust by voters on the Iran war? Or that Bush should have been after he lost the second midterms on the Iraq war and chose to double down and do a surge? Or is there one set of rules for your country and another for the peasants? Ukrainians lost faith in Yishchenko by 2010 but they waited for his term to be up before they elected Yanukovich. Yanukovich was every bit as corrupt as every other Ukrainian president whether pro western or pro Russian. The difference was Obama got humiliated by Putin in 2013 by having his bombing on Syria thwarted when Putin proposed UN supervised destruction of Syria's chemical weapons and the Americans wanted to give him a problem closer to home. That's where the "maidan" came from.
What do you think he is stealing? Ukraines civil servants are being paid entirely out of western aid. Black markets in Kosovo and the Middle East have seen and had seized American hardware destined for Ukraine. I'm many things but dumb isn't one of them. You're just pissed I refuted something you genuinely believed because you have blinders on like so many Americans who, no matter how many times their media lies to them about alleged things that happened that end up starting a war but end up being untrue, still can't acquire a gram of skepticism, esp when it's their party's president that started that war. It's sad really.
It's been all over the news and Zelenskiys own chief of staff Yermak has been indicted, hoping it will prevent reaching Zelenskiy and his wife. It's even in American media. I guess that's how you regurgitate the party line. Yanukovich was a dictator elected in a free and fair election and the people who violently ousted him instead of accepting the early election offer in May 2014 brokered by theEU are pro democracy activists.
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In other words, you know that's what's going on now but it doesn't fit your narrative and you don't want to address it. I don't blame you. For your ass handed to you by Iran so it's time to do another Grenada to make the peasants wave some flags. Meanwhile, like Marx's prediction that the last capitalist will be hung by the top he sells to his executioners, Americas capitalist class sold its own people for a little extra profit and built up China to now compete and overtake the US. It must be hard to be alive for the final decline of your country AND your belief system.
@JJCarafano And if he tried to interfere in that, you would be saying Russia is forcing itself onto those two. It's pretty comical how obvious all this has become.
@misentr0pe@btharris93 He doesn't care. British people have been indoctrinated to hate Russia since Waterloo. And since the Suez Canal Crisis they pretend to matter in global affairs by bootstrapping themselves to the US.
@GeoObserverX@McFaul He doesn't fail to grasp it at all. He knows Sino Russian partnership means an alternative to American hegemony that most of the rest of the world is gladly willing to side with. This is a monopolist buying out or suffocating an upstart before their monopoly is threatened.
Well they did build POS 1 and POS 2 route runs thru Mongolia which has its own anti Chinese policy and has of late flirted with DC. This is how American gaslighting works. They blow up Nord Stream and then blame Russia for it. They then stick their nose in Mongolia to slow down a pipeline and blame the Chinese for not trusting the Russians.
The problem is that this is the same British playbook from the 19th century of divide et impera that worked so well, and people who experienced it first hand know it by heart and easily spot the BS.
We know that a Sino Russian alliance is the kiss of death for American hegemony, and that's why sowing divisions between them is priority No. 1.
@NickKristof Then why are they asking you what happened if it's so indelible? You don't even realize your entire point, to the extent you have one, is an utter contradiction.
@posta_octavian So why doesn't America do that to save its own industry? Are you going to make us all laugh and tell us it's because America cares about the global South?