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[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@sth39_ It’s paired with ui sign because in the game mechanics ssj4 and ui are swappable transformations (they knew they were ending soon So to get all the forms they made ui sign and 4 swappable, and mui and limit breaker swapable). It’s not a power comparison, it’s a mechanic thing

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@PhantoMz202 Ssj4 and sign are paired together because they are swapable in the game (the same class up form can either be ssj4 or ui sign, similarly mui and limit breaker 4 are the same class up), it’s not a comment on power

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@DBMultiverse Ah, neiz finally does something, now just cui needs to appear and the novel only soldiers is in the manga

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@MonoHerobrine @EmperorBigD Tbf he struggled against his jr because he was still injured and tired from his fight with cell (shown by vegeta and trunks doing better than him), he likely would’ve beaten one (though not effortlessly) if fresh. But yeah Goku couldn’t beat cell either way

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@JaredHendrix6 Figured but honestly with heroes it was a small possibility lol

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@lennon_rivers @PAround51631 @DBZdaily_ Okay, he’s not using the ui form with god either. He’s using the properties (the technique) with base, god, and blue. I will say though I think I mixed up Goku going ssj with vegeta. So I take back my example as it was a mistake of which of them uses ssj.

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@lennon_rivers @PAround51631 @DBZdaily_ He does use the properties with ssj when he’s dodging granolahs initial attack. He can use it in any form, but the higher the form he’s in the better the dodging (which is what whis wants him to work on, using it better without transforming at all)

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@JaredHendrix6 They have plenty of deals that make the game and dlc cheaper (might be dependent on the system though), just means you have to catch the deal while it’s going

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@KevinMallonDrac @Kocounn Yeah, that’s what I mean by shapeshifting. He’s like buu but it buu turned into his victims

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@SaladSaiyan @FrogPrince61 One I assume is the previous Kami, another being garlic SR (since it’s very tied to piccolos past). I wonder if you plan to include a father for cold or just use chilled since you mention pre cold, but the previous two are my only real guesses

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@Akuji_Forsaken @SaladSaiyan Knows basically nothing about the old lives of people but at least has the added effect of control (as such the potential to escape vampa the way z Broly did vegeta), while with Gohan it’s kinda just like the Goku one where he’d know things and try to stop them, but with Gohan.

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@Akuji_Forsaken @SaladSaiyan Gohan could work, it’s just not as interesting as any of the other. Kinda just becomes another what if he kept training with the added effect of him knowing what’ll happen. Goku and vegeta would handle things differently, piccolo like he says here starts 500 years ago, Broly

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@SaladSaiyan YES. That’s the way I was hoping it’d go

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@MoonshotEntmt @masccuj0h @DJWarnerStage Difference in proof to him having them, and reasons he may not, but don’t necessarily mean he does. Those more help support the idea then prove it.

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@MoonshotEntmt @masccuj0h @DJWarnerStage Okay, those aren’t proof he has power though, that’s lack of definitive evidence he doesn’t have powers. Evidence he does would be of butcher followed behind Ryan and he was farther away than he logically could have walked. I’m welcome to say agree to disagree, but there’s a

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@MoonshotEntmt @masccuj0h @DJWarnerStage I get that. The proof is that everything hints so far he doesn’t (the assumption, the lack of denying, the no using his powers after or hint. My point is, there is no reason to think he does have his powers (this is coming from someone who wants him to)

[Jdbz @Jdbz31]

@masccuj0h @MoonshotEntmt @DJWarnerStage The his is my point exactly. Could they retroactively in a spin off reveal he has it? Yes. But the people assuming “the show is lying to us, he has them” based on 0 evidence don’t get that the fact that he has powers needs to be proven, not that he doesn’t.