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@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ And at Al Nassr, age matters. Every player declines. That’s football reality, not an argument.
If you remove goals from a striker’s evaluation, you’re basically saying finishing doesn’t matter in football. That’s not analysis... that’s contradiction.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ At Juventus, the tactical setup was built around low creativity. So yes, his role became more direct... and he still produced elite output in a system that created less for him than Madrid or Barcelona systems created for their forwards.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ That includes match-winning goals, hat-tricks in UCL knockouts, and consistent performances in finals.
At Manchester United he wasn’t “just scoring”... he transformed from a winger into a Ballon d’Or-winning forward and carried the attack in a title-winning season.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ But since you’re reducing it to “just goals,” let’s expand it:
At Real Madrid he isn’t just “a scorer” he is the all time top scorer of the club and the Champions League’s most decisive knockout player for years.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ “Anyone can score goals” is a casual way to dismiss the hardest job in football.
At Juventus, Ronaldo wasn’t signed to be a midfielder or playmaker... he was signed as a primary goal source in a system that was already declining creatively.
@ultimate_kombo So it’s not “league hopping = GOAT.”
It’s “elite performance + longevity + records across top leagues = part of the argument.”
Reducing it to one factor makes the discussion easier to dismiss, but not more accurate..
@ultimate_kombo That comparison misses the point completely.
Winning in multiple leagues is not the only argument for greatness, but it shows adaptability at the highest level... something very few players in football history have done at elite output.
@ultimate_kombo And the João Cancelo example doesn’t hold. Fullbacks and forwards are judged by completely different metrics... defensive structure, chance creation, tactical role, and attacking output are not equivalent to being a primary goal scorer and record holder.
@ultimate_kombo Also, no one is saying “he won leagues, therefore GOAT.” That’s a simplified version of a much bigger career discussion: goals, records, consistency, longevity, and impact in different systems and eras.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ If the argument is impact, longevity, and consistency across leagues, that’s exactly where his career stands out... not disappears.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ Also, mentioning Bayern players like Coman, Mané, and others “doing well without him” doesn’t prove anything about Ronaldo. Different teams, different systems, different roles.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ As for Al Nassr, football is a team sport. One player not winning the league doesn’t mean he’s “doing nothing.” By that logic, every great player in weaker squads is automatically irrelevant.
@BigSign26@KDCGlobal_ At Juventus, the team wasn’t built around dominance like Madrid or Barcelona eras... it was already declining, and he still produced elite numbers in a low-creating side.