@DeseretFanatic That's how I took it. If you can't determine who is part of your country (bc that's "tribal" or a racism) then you don't have a country.
Unless he doesn't understand 2nd order effects.
@BradWitbeck@AplusGuildRVT@ElGranCheerio I don't see it as a hypothetical. I read it that way.
Yes, later he claims to like us, but I'm not sure I buy that considering.
@BradWitbeck@ElGranCheerio It's neither tribal prejudice nor racist.
Do Mexicans hate other Mexicans because they don't wish to live in Mexico?
My personal feelings towards others is what counts here. I don't hate anyone. I'm sorry you struggle to understand that.
@BradWitbeck@ElGranCheerio I am honestly confused as to how you think it applies.
I support politicians who will deport as many as possible of those who wouldn't have qualified prior to 1965.
That has 0 to do with my feelings towards those individuals. I love them and wish them the best.
@ElGranCheerio When I'm speaking generally & you take it personally, i have to conclude those words apply to you. I don't know your situation & I'm not the person telling you to go home here.
Do you hate Mexicans bc you don't want to live there? You shouldn't assume hate where none exists.
@ElGranCheerio I've never said I hate you and I've never been rude to you. Believing that we should live in different countries isn't hateful.
Why would you assume I hate you? That's simply bizarre.
"I don't make assumptions about Jenn"
- Goes on to list a ton of assumptions.
I would say that this statement (along with being false) is far more hateful and rude than anything Cardon has said to me.
Nice work, Cheerio!!
I don't make any assumptions about Jenn. I've interacted with her on this app. There's a reason why I avoid interacting with her. She hates people like me, even if she's never met me, and she's pretty open about it on this app. She said she would rather live next to nonmembers, than live next to my family, even if my family is a good, Latter-day Saint family. She didn't say this to me or about me directly, but what she said applies to me. So I take it personal. She's insulting me and my kids with her comments.
Yeah, she probably doesn't get personal in her attacks, but her interactions and comments on this app are full of hate. She's never gone after me personally. And I don't go to her posts to attack her either. I do agree that Cardon shouldn't have said what he said, but I also don't see her as a victim. She saw people dogpiling on Cardon and decided to join in.
@ElGranCheerio@TheLadyGamer12@ldsfilmguy@ITalkOfChrist@WardRadioShow@LeonMcBane@Je5ton Also, I had never heard of WR prior to that moment. I gave honest feedback that given what I was seeing from their main account, I wasn't likely to ever watch.
Normally, I stay out of infighting entirely but I (wrongly as it turns out) thought they'd want to know.
Because he is a trans-constitutionalist and because the name of the game is to redefine what a conservative is and replace it with a postliberal he uses Jefferson who said:
An emergency involving an imminent invasion or rebellion may make ordinary civil process temporarily incapable of preserving the legal order. (I could give you the entire background of the Burr conspiracy and what the whole letter Jefferson wrote talked about, but nobody would actually read that.)
He is taking that out of context to smuggle in this conclusion:
Government can override the Constitution whenever rulers believe their preferred policy furthers the common good, as the ruler himself defines.