@jrpsaki I think everyone would agree, prayer is not enough. However, I think prayer is necessary.
And the fact is, is that you don’t know what prayer can do.
Maybe prayer can stop school shootings. Maybe prayer can make parents feel safe. Why would you say, “enough with these things?”
@paulogia0 this world would be damned in any feasible world and so this would imply that Paul, not God, is ultimately responsible for his own damnation. 2/2
@paulogia0 A world in which Paul is saved is a possible world.
But is it a feasible world?
Not necessarily.
If Paul is free to resist the Holy Spirit the way scripture teaches, then it may be that there are no feasible worlds in which he doesn’t.
It may be that everyone damned in 1/2
@TheSkeptic4122 There were clearly people who were faithful to God prior to Jesus’s advent. They are discussed in the Old Testament documents, as well as some of the New Testament ones.
So saving faith in Jesus is therefore a sufficient condition for being saved, not a necessary one.
@Steel_penguinX @jordan_zeeno @SpeedWatkins Dr. Craig doesn’t equate moral rightness with whatever God does. He claims moral obligations arise in virtue of God issuing commands to us about how to act. So long as God is morally perfect, we can have confidence that God will issue good commands for our good.
@SpeedWatkins You’ve run a number of distinct issues together. You need to distinguish between moral values, duties, moral acts, and divine psychology.
@Steel_penguinX @jordan_zeeno @SpeedWatkins Oh really? Care to show how you go about boiling his arguments down in order to distill out the summary you’ve given?
@SpeedWatkins@goingawoll What about those views of ethical subjectivism that have God as its foundation? I think what you’re saying is a good defeater of the sort of ethical subjectivism we see among humans. We’re suffering from this mad-house option already. God however, doesn’t do things on a whim.
@SpeedWatkins God isn’t obligated to either create us or sustain us in being. We can be thankful though Ben, because God is good and does want us to have eternal life, and isn’t capricious the way many carnal fathers are. Incidentally, I’m guessing you’re pro-life?
@Steel_penguinX @jordan_zeeno @SpeedWatkins Sure it is. There are no Christian philosophers working in ethics that would defend the view you just summarized. I challenge you to name just one.
@SpeedWatkins It would imply God is not beholden to sustain our physical body indefinitely. God doesn’t have any moral obligations and God is the paradigm of goodness. God’s not obligated to prolong our life. We can be grateful we have a Good and Loving God who wants us all to live forever.
@RandalRauser Expressing your incredulity that Dr. Craig has defended a particular view in no way constitutes a defeater of that view. Do you have an argument somewhere that would justify this incredulity?
@SnarkQueenBee If the situation was reversed, and instead of Trump being found guilty by a civil jury of rape, it was Joe Biden that had been found guilty, would you vote for Trump?
@KurenaiCrimson@paulogia0 The questions presupposes the author is giving a sort of chronological account in Genesis one and this presupposes a sort of hyper literal interpretation, one which I see no reason to adopt. The author isn’t a cosmologist and isn’t teach cosmogony.
@paulogia0 You’re not serious right? I mean, this is a joke, right? “The illusion of free will”? Do you not understand the implications for your beliefs of free will is simply an illusion?
@polyscimom@indecisiveuser7@Natasha_Crain Every law we have on the books is about what people can and can’t do with their bodies. Are you in favor of allowing women to drink alcohol and drive a motor vehicle, for example? Should we not tell women they can’t do that with their body?