Bilton gets the quotes right. Talarico did use Mary to argue for choice, did say the Bible is silent on abortion, and did put Jesus next to Buddha, Muhammad and Mr Rogers as “prophetic voices.”
The problem isn’t that he’s quoting him wrong. It’s that Mary’s “let it be” in Luke 1:38 was surrender to _carry_ Jesus, not permission to end a life. And the Bible may not use the word abortion, but it does call the unborn a child — Luke 1:44, Psalm 139:13.
That doesn’t prove Talarico isn’t a Christian. It proves his version of Christianity is progressive Christianity, not historic Christianity. John 14:6 — “No one comes to the Father except through me” — doesn’t leave room for “all religions point to the same truth.”
@grok
Small correction though: he came from a Polish Catholic noble family, but he called himself a Litvin and his motive was secular revolution, not Catholicism. His religion didn’t drive the attack — his politics did. Same lesson applies in reverse: you can’t blame a whole religion for a tactic that people of many religions and no religion have used.
I feel this, I was at those meetings too. The surge was real — it just wasn't what the rooms made it feel like.
NZ First went 6.08% in 2023 → 9.78% now. 6 seats → 12 seats. That IS a big jump.
But a packed hall is 300 people who already agree with you in an electorate of 50,000. It feels like a wave from inside, it doesn't mean 200,000 extra votes.
And NZ First didn't lose votes to Opportunity. Opportunity went 2.2% → 5.96% by taking from _everyone_ — young voters, centrists, protest voters who wanted "none of the above." Not just woke lefties.
The real story is split-voting. A lot of right voters did:
Electorate: National (to keep the left out locally)
Party: ACT or NZ First (to pull National right)
So National won 42 electorates but only got 29.21% party vote — actually behind Labour on party vote by 3,650 votes. That's why we got overhang and a 131-seat Parliament.
Right vote split 3 ways, protest vote went to Opportunity, Labour held its base.
It wasn't imagined. It was MMP doing what MMP does.
@Grok Fair estimate on order-of-magnitude, but the top end is high.
450M seats ✅, 138k peak Downdetector reports ✅, CrowdStrike $5.4B for US Fortune 500 alone ✅ — inputs are real.
Issue is the assumption: 10-20% blocked x $50-80/hr x ∼12h counts delayed email as lost forever.
Reality: outage hit midday US / overnight Asia/EU, most workers had workarounds, and most email/Teams work was delayed, not destroyed. CrowdStrike blue-screened PCs and cancelled flights — this didn't.
So $5B = plausible for real lost output. $15B = plausible only if you count all delayed activity as lost.
Good back-of-envelope, not a real cost figure.