@NancyStreet0821@AsteadWH@AbdulElSayed I know it hurts when you realize how many Jews support El-Sayed, including Israeli Jews. No matter what happens in the general, my Israeli friends are cheering progressives on.
What has been consistent for decades in American politics, across the spectrum, is this: the erasure of the Palestinians. The cancelation of Palestinian and pro Palestinian voices. The complete indifference to the plight of the Palestinian people, at home and abroad.
#DNC2024
@clenchner Except that a) the Jews were not forced to leave their homeland; b) Palestine might have been an imagined homeland but was not the actual homeland of the Zionist settlers and c) you don't believe in the right to return for 11 million Palestinians, do you?
A progressive bookstore invites a notoriously "progressive except for Palestine" Israel-defender to host a conversation about a book by a young non-Zionist? Why is anybody surprised that during a time of mass Israeli destruction of Gaza, this is viewed as offensive?
@joshualeifer @powerHouseBooks Why would a progressive book store host somebody who is notoriously progressive except for Palestine? Wouldn't it be better to have your conversation at the 92nd Street Y?
@shaisecunda @BartovOmer But again, one is a literary essay; the other is a sharp critique of Israel. I haven't heard Dubnov's response, but I assume he doesn't think that the article was based on his sources. We all know when that happens. The key source in the article is Bartov.
@shaisecunda @BartovOmer The author now writes he learned of the poem form Dubnov's "excellent essay." The original omission is not plagiarism, but sloppy scholarship. When the omission is a source that represents a lot of research, the colleague must be credited; otherwise, a mentsh gives credit.
@shaisecunda @BartovOmer Intellectual sources? So aside from a lot of Bartov, I see three sources that have been cited a lot since October 7. And they have little to do with the theme of the article, which I felt was way too long. But I get that an Anglo might not be aware of that.
@shaisecunda @BartovOmer Not obscure after October 7. Long articles in every Israeli media outlet. For all I know neither Dubnov nor Bartov heard of the poem beforehand. And every educated Israeli knows the famous Dayan hesped. Both are now canonical, according to (almost) sabra Rachel Manekin.
@shaisecunda @BartovOmer Bartov's piece is much more autobiographical, and much more about his experiences when he visited Israel. In fact, the whole point of the piece was his visit to Israel. Ever educated Israeli knows the Dayan hesped, and the Eldan poem got a lot of media.
@gregg_mashberg@joshrogin@GWUniversity@GWtweets Of course it is. It is a state that was established through conquest and expulsion, and some of these protesters are relatives of those expelled. If the shoe were on the other foot, wouldn't Israelis feel the same?
@AvivaKlompas@IlhanMN Excuse me, is anybody who supports genocide "acceptable"? Or you give Jews a moral pass. In that case, you think that Jews aren't human, which is pretty anti-Semitic, in my opinion.
@mattduss Would Greenblatt have been happier had she said "whether they're pro-killing children or anti-killing children"? But those students support the IDF, who are killing children. And yet if support Hamas, then you must be pro-massacre because that's what Hamas did.
@RabbiWolpe I have seen Jews with kippot protesting with their Muslim brethren. In fact, there are now kippot with Palestinian colors to signify the wearer's identification with those oppressed by people speaking in their name.https://t.co/NEODPTa6wJ
@MonicaLMarks Of course, the Palestinians have the right to armed resistance. They are human, are they not? But that right has to be exercised within the bounds of international law. And neither side has done that, though the IDF has been much incalcuably worse than Hamas.
@asegovia9@Shanfaraa@barbarikon Not state elimination but regime change, as in South Africa. Israel/Palestine has to become a nation state of its citizens, and a place that welcomes Israelis and Palestinians who wish to return. It needs to replace Jewish privilege with justice and equality for its citizen.
@YousefMunayyer B-G thought that by expelling Palestinians he was securing Israel. Some of those refugees ended up in the
West. and, like other immigrants, have seen their children and grandchildren flourish. Many will occupy positions of influence. And the narrative and policies will change.