@mysteriouskat Actually, some people leave the seat up because they forget to put it down. I think what you've defined is someone who doesn't care vs. someone who has OCD 😁. By your definition, I'm a woman 🤣.
For the record, I suspect that your concern lies more with the rampant antisemitism than the overall socio-political issues. I don't in any way wish to diminish the issue of antisemitism, but I do think it's the socio-political problem which allows the antisemitism to manifest itself in violence. I believe that the violence should be strongly dealt with, regardless of the underlying reason behind it. A society's laws need to supersede individual's political and religious beliefs where there's conflict, in order for the society to thrive.
Arsonists, suicide bombers and such believe that they're doing a good thing because they're fighting for their cause or religion, but a civilized society can't survive if it allows it's citizens to destroy people or property simply because they don't like someone or something. Ideally, we'd have laws which protect society without imposing restrictions on people's personal beliefs, but when personal beliefs and laws conflict, laws take precedence. It's impossible to have our cake and eat it too 🍰.😁 We all must settle some to live together in harmony, because no two people are exactly the same. I'm sorry for rambling on, but I hope at least some of that makes sense?
Suicidal empathy is a socio-political concept.... not empathy on an individual basis. It's why BLM was allowed to destroy downtown Richmond here, and police were told to stand by and watch. Nobody was held accountable. I'm not an expert on these things, but I think it involves society not enforcing the rules established for it's survival out of misplaced empathy for the offenders.
You're not wrong. It's not so funny when you look at the social and economic impact which resulted from those baseless restrictions which were imposed on us.
I play the trumpet. When we were finally allowed to play in public again, we had to wear "masks" with a hole for the mouthpiece, and a flap over the hole when we weren't playing. I had to put "masks" on my trumpets, just to make everyone else feel safer... to feel that I wasn't spraying COVID all over... My wife and I never got COVID. For a while, we had to distance 6 feet from each other... the musicians. People are finally, years later, getting over that mostly baseless fear that our government imposed on it's people. I can laugh at the stupidity of it, but there was a huge emotional and real cost imposed, unnecessarily, by our government. I find it difficult to laugh at people who trusted their government... we *should* be able to trust people in authority. The fact that our government knowingly and intentionally did that to us is frightening and sad... not really funny. Yes, people were stupid... people were naive.... but that's not a crime. I don't have answers, but I don't think laughing at the victims is the answer.
If an autonomous car is not explicitly taught not to run the child over, it will happily do so. I think that makes it stupid. I'm struggling to prevent myself from humorously insulting Arabs here. What I meant was that I don't know how well what I'm saying translates to Arabic, but I was indeed poking fun at your poor English 🤔.
In fact, AI is dumber than the dumbest of people. AI can't do anything that it's not spelled out in writing (code+data) in excruciating detail. That's why it takes huge data processing centers to train it to do things which are relatively simple for humans, like driving a car. Granted, once the AI is properly trained by smart people, it will APPEAR to be smart... probably smarter than any individual person, but it's still stupid. It doesn't understand anything. Any of those smart trainers could train it to do something stupid, and it would happily do whatever it's taught to do. It probablly would have been better if Elon had said "as AI becomes more capable."
@elonmusk AI isn't smart. AI doesn't understand. It processes data via algorithms. It processes quicker and more thoroughly than humans, which is why it can excel at breaking things, or solving puzzles. The language processing ability makes things more generally accessible.
No, you wrong 😁🤣. Maybe that's true in Arabic, but in English, processing and understanding are not the same.
Per Grok,
**No.** Processing and understanding are related but not the same.
### Processing
Processing is the manipulation of information according to rules, patterns, or algorithms.
- Input data goes in.
- Operations (comparisons, transformations, pattern matching, calculations) are applied.
- Output comes out.
A calculator processes arithmetic. A sorting algorithm processes lists of numbers. A language model processes sequences of tokens. None of these steps requires the system to *grasp* what the data means. Syntax and procedure are enough.
### Understanding
Understanding involves grasping meaning, relevance, implications, and context. It is semantic rather than purely syntactic. It includes:
- Knowing what the information is *about*.
- Relating it to other knowledge or goals.
- Being able to use it flexibly, explain it, or act on it in novel situations.
- In humans, it is typically tied to conscious experience, intentionality, and grounded concepts.
You can process Chinese characters by following a rulebook and produce fluent replies without understanding a single word of Chinese (the classic Chinese Room thought experiment). The same distinction appears in everyday life: a student can process and reproduce exam answers by rote without understanding the material; a program can process medical images and flag anomalies without understanding disease.
### Where they overlap and where they diverge
- Understanding almost always *requires* processing. You cannot understand a sentence if your brain (or any system) does not process the sensory and linguistic input.
- The reverse is not true. Processing can occur without understanding. Most computation, including a great deal of biological neural activity, is of this kind.
In artificial systems the gap is especially clear. Large language models excel at sophisticated processing of linguistic patterns and can produce outputs that *look* like understanding. Whether that constitutes genuine understanding remains contested; the dominant view in philosophy of mind and cognitive science is that fluent processing of symbols is not sufficient for the semantic, intentional grasp that “understanding” ordinarily denotes.
So: processing is necessary but not sufficient for understanding. They are distinct.
@mysteriouskat Yes. It's indeed tricky. Data manipulation tools should adhere to and be restrained by the same copyright and trademark restrictions as people are. I'm afraid that won't happen, because "AI" companies are making money by providing copyrighted material without paying for it.
@will008341@DanielGilr44222 Will,
Why would I post a photo of my late wife for *this* post? That's sick. I probably shouldn't have posted about her at all, but I thought things she taught me related, and also, I couldn't resist a menopause joke. I guess ethics are different in China?
@elonmusk AI is as old as dirt. It's the processors that are advancing. I studied AI at Stanford in 1982-3, and it was old then. I realize that "AI" is a marketing gimmick, but crediting it for everything still irks me. It's as if we're in an era of affirmative action for AI techniques.
There were reasons to not take the COVID shot, and no good reasons to take it. COVID had bad potential lasting side effects... so did the shot. For most people, the risk from COVID was lower than the risk from the shot. By not taking the shot, my risk from the shot was ZERO. The shot did not prevent one from catching or transmitting COVID. The *only* people who should have been given the *option* to get the shot were the elderly and others at high risk of dying from COVID. Children and young adults, who were not at serious risk from COVID, had a higher risk of permanent, long term adverse effects from the shots than from the actual virus, especially after the virus mutated. Since the shots didn't prevent COVID, they increased risk. I personally have a genetic clotting disorder, as do many people, many of whom are unaware that they have one or more. I don't need to increase my clotting risk.
To be clear, I have no problem with the feds offering the shot for free to anyone who wants it, after they're properly informed of the risks. I'm all for freedom of informed choice. The problem during COVID was the significant and deliberate concealment of information, and the mandates. For most people, and for society as a whole, there was no benefit and significant risk from the shot. That's the analysis that your governments *should* have, and could have provided. This information was largely available in early 2020, before the shots were available. It was suppressed by the "vaccine" manufacturers, and the world governments, who had already agreed to purchase large quantities of the "vaccine," and who needed to justify the expense.
I don’t believe I am better than anybody else. I didn’t take the jab. I did not inject poison into my blood. A term called pure blood shouldn’t enrage you so. It’s just a saying for those of us who didn’t take it.
Sorry if you did but your misplaced anger should be on Fauci and not those of us who say we are pure bloods.
People like Fauci are evil, but you can't fault someone for following the advice of their lawyers. Fauci was a tool. He didn't do it all by himself. I think allowing politicians to make him the lone scapegoat for everything our government and others did would be a grave mistake. Fauci isn't a mastermind. He *is* amoral and opportunistic, but he's only one part of the bigger picture. I hope and pray that everyone responsible is held publicly accountable...not just Fauci.