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[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@alfredlanning23 @HallisseyC Thank you for such a thorough, thoughtful reply.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@alfredlanning23 @HallisseyC involved in restructuring. Surely there are real costs associated with this.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@alfredlanning23 @HallisseyC Perhaps I was unclear. I was referring to clear, tangible benefits for parkrun.
Correct me if you think I’m wrong, but I don’t believe parkrun can implement policy changes without requiring modifications to its database. I’m thinking primarily about the practical issues …

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC @neilDCFC @alfredlanning23 Hi Claire. You appear to be unaware of the fact that parkrun does not collect sex information from parkrun participants.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@alfredlanning23 @HallisseyC If I understand your position correctly, changing the registration category produces no clear tangible benefits but incurs costs. Is that an correct (crude) cost-benefit analysis of the proposed change?

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@alfredlanning23 @HallisseyC If you’re correct in your estimates, what tangible benefit arises from changing to registration by sex?

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@alfredlanning23 @HallisseyC participation numbers? I appreciate your willingness to discuss questions like this calmly and objectively.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@alfredlanning23 @HallisseyC Can we try a thought experiment? Using gender registration, how accurate are parkrun estimates of participation by sex? Would unverified registration by sex meaningfully improve estimates of participation by sex? Would making this change have a net negative impact on overall …

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@itsafrogslife @HallisseyC @JennyAscendant Thank you Graham. I see Claire immediately searches for excuses to dismiss inconvenient evidence.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC @neilDCFC Are you really trying to make the argument that parkrun is a non-competitive competition? That isn’t a defensible position, Claire.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC (not scaring away new people) to a central element of parkrun design (to create a non-competitive atmosphere for a fitness run) with a causal assignment. You need to provide evidence of this causal assignment.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC You’re being obtuse again, Claire. You claimed parkrun is vocal about it not being a race to avoid scaring off people who are considering joining. Your “it seems likely” is not supporting evidence. Rather, it’s a speculatively dishonest attempt to tie an obvious goal …

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC You claim “they don’t want to scare new people off.” I’d like you to produce evidence to support your claim. Do you have any?

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC see a fitness initiative. As someone who has raced competitively, I can tell the difference between parkrun and a race. Why can’t you?

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC “encourages” competition despite the fact that every bit of evidence indicates the opposite. parkrun tells participants it is not a race. It isn’t operated as a race. The registration process is not consistent with most races. Where you see a race, people connected to reality …

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@HallisseyC reply, you attempted to extend my analogy of Xmas shopping to parkun participation by asking for a list of winners. You’re not being honest with yourself or with us.
The goal of parkrun is participation, not competition. You are trying to upend this goal.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC You’re being disingenuous, Claire. You’ve repeatedly mentioned “competition” at parkrun and you constantly reference “coming first.” People who “compete” are racing. The person who finishes first in a race is declared the winner.
You are playing word games. In your first …

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@JennyAscendant @HallisseyC Beautifully said. Thank you Jenny.

[Jimmigrant @Jimmigrant1]

@HallisseyC You’re being obtuse, Claire. You’re doing this to avoid the pertinent issue. Why are you unwilling to acknowledge that parkrun is not designed for racing? Your insistence that parkrun events are “won” or “lost” is evidence that you do not understand parkrun.