JoeOfEarth™

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[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

Lol, some times you need to make an over exaggerated example to point out the flaw in logic. The logic you were using is, you can't say there isn't a rifle because we see *something*. But when the thing you see is completely inconsistent in size of what you are saying is there, then by that logic you can claim it's anything, hence me joking about the elephant or Tyler being under the towel.

I did watch the video you posted, which is exactly the idea that I was suggesting, except it had some major flaws. Specifically, the stand in object he used not being consistent with the one in question. Also, in my opinion even with the smaller object wrapped in the towel, it was still more obviously something bigger then we see in the fbi video.

Now, what would convince me is a higher quality version of the video that much more clearly shows a larger weapon. Because I've watched the video enough times, I trust my eyes that the video does not show anything resembling a rifle even if it's claimed he is.

And as far as the me being civil if you are part, you took the first jab claiming "you just see what Candace tells you to see" and so my jab back was an exaggerated claim about an elephant or zebra and that you must be trolling me because IMO the logic of "even though it doesn't look like an almost 4 foot rifle, you still can't know that it's not". My whole point is just trusting my eyes. Until we see a better quality video, I'm going to likely continue to trust what I see. That video should surface in court, if it doesn't then I will likely stick to the position that he doesn't have a rifle. If that video surfaces in court, or on the internet beforehand and DOES show the rifle, I will admit that I was wrong.

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

How can you be sure there wasn't an elephant under that cloth? You can't!

But the fact is, the person running isnt Tyler robinson, Tyler Robinson did take the shot though! The person running is actually lance twigga and he is holding a cloth and Tyler Robinson is hiding in the cloth along with the mouser! 🤡

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

Ok. You are just trolling at this point lmao with your logic you can't look at that video and say "there isn't a zebra under that cloth".

I had watched that video back on September 11th before Candace started investigating and knew there wasn't a rifle. That was when the full narrative wasn't set yet and there was speculation as to him taking it apart and putting it in a backpack and other theories.

It was also before I knew the timing of the video being less then a minute after the shot rang out and before they announced it was a mouser 98 so i figured it was a smaller weapon or he must have disassembled it or left it on the roof or something else.

As soon as it was verified that this video was immediately after the shot and they were claiming it was a fully assembled mouser 98, and the wound wasn't consistent with the alleged weapon and the video and pictures they showed there was no 4 foot rifle, that's when I knew we were being played.

Candace and other have just helped fill in the gaps since then. If you are not trolling me or purposely trying to manipulate people on X, please don't reproduce.

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

@Kekius_Maximus RamRod

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

@catturd2 I'll take "what" for $500, Alex

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

One other point, I agree, if you keep watching the same video you can often see things that aren't there or draw meaning into something where there is not.

BUT, I'd argue that if you keep watching the same video, you can see that something is NOT there, or maybe better said: you CAN see that something isn't there. No matter how many times you watch this, you arent going to see something that resembles a mouser 98...

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

someone needs to recreate this video. get a similar gun and a towel, find approximately how far the camera is from the man and set up a camera from a similar vantage point, have someone hold the gun under the towel and do some type of similar set of maneuvers, scale down the resolution of the video and do some compression (get it to match the approximate quality of the video as best as possible). Doing so I think would put an end to all this speculation.

I'm sure there will be plenty who are defending the fed narrative in bad faith because they are being paid or protecting someone that will still come up with excuses/explanations to try to convince everyone not to believe their own eyes and common sense (and some gullible folks would fall for it), but it would change the mind of anyone who is open minded and thinks there is a sniper rifle in that video.

If I were the defense team, I'd be doing something like this. If possible, I'd do the video recreation at the actual scene but that may be trickier so would likely have to come up with some replica setting.

Another thing I would do is bring the actual mouser 98 that he allegedly used into the court room with a towel and have Tyler handle it for the jury to see what it would look like and how he would have to hold it. Then I would pass it around to the jury for them all to hold, for them to feel the weight of it and feel the awkwardness of carrying a heavy metal longgun with a scope thats wrapped in a towel and tell them to invision trying to do what is shown in the video. Specifically, I'd play them the sequence of him going from running, to hanging from the roof, then landing on his feet and fleeing several times.

In particular, the way the object he is holding in ONE hand "swings" around effortlessly as he is climbing over the edge of the building would be impossible for even the most skilled gun expert to do.

I'm trying to be reasonable here and walk through my thought process step by step and logically and not resort to name calling and belittling. I hope you have an open mind and can engage in a thorough, well thought out response that addresses these points. Would love to continue this "debate"

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

Maybe some frames the cloth object lies straight down appearing like something longer is under it, but still no frames show anything close to a mouser 98 rifle. A 4 foot metal gun with a scope purtruding off of it.

You have to remember when you a watch the video, if he is holding the said weapon, it is in his hands the ENTIRE video. Because it is low res and far away, some parts/frames of the video taken out of the full context your side can try to say "see, there's the rifle", but I can take 100 other frames or sections of the video where it's clear he is not holding the rifle and all you can say is "it's grainy but it has to be there, the TV told me so".

I feel like y'all are either trolling or purposely trying to push the fed narrative. This seems like common sense that there is no sniper rifle in that video.

Maybe go to a gun store and ask if you can hold a comparable weapon. Bring yourself a towel or something to hide it under. Then just incision yourself running across a rooftop, dropping down 20 feet and fleeing past traffic and pedestrians. It should take you less then one minute to be like, shit, there's no fuckin way...

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

@Tater_Brains @RealAlexJones Alex is unfortunately compromised. This is no longer opinion. It's sad to see but he obviously flew to close to the sun. Look to Alex if you are just trying to help better understand what the false narrative of the day is. Today it's that trump isnt Bibis bitch

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

@KVStinkputin @_midGRAY Ok, skip people noticing it, just explain how you can watch that video and come to the conclusion he is holding a large heavy rifle with a scope that's 2/3 his height

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

@coronajr1017 @_midGRAY Some small/short, non rigid, black object. Towel or cloth or something similar. If it was speculated to be a towel just holding the scope, or a handgun I would say yes that could be it. A gun nearly 4 feet with a large scope? Or a towel covering such a gun? No.

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

No but imo that still does not suggest he is holding a 4ft rifle with a big scope purtruding. It looks to me just like the towel, or whatever he was carrying, was very straight for 1 single frame. Down for further discussion on this point because my eyes tell a diff story then the media

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

This is very interesting, and you seem reasonable enough to have a civil back and forth with on bc I hold a much diff stance. My stance is this is the single biggest peice of evidence we are being lied to just because I've watched this dozens of times and am not at all convinced he is holding a nearly 4 foot rifle with a scope on it. Based on timestamps, there is no way he had the time to have broken it down as some people suggest.

When watching the video as a whole, not taking 2 or 3 specific stills and insisting "there is the gun, see!!!", it does not seem he is holding a large rifle 2/3 the length of his body with a scope purtruding out of it. When he walks by walking pedestrians and oncoming traffic, he did not cause any type of alarm or concern. And just the way he runs, jumps down, and then flees, I can't see how anyone who's looking at the same footage could even suggest, let alone state with certainty, that he was weilding a mauser 98 with a scope.

Have had the thought of creating a video where I superunpose such an object using his height as a reference point, to show how indeed that claim that he was truly is.

If you have some good arguments I am all ears. I am not like the majority of people on this platform that would rather win the argument then be right in my position. I'm pretty open minded so if you think you have a compelling counter argument, I'm all ears, and will be respectful as long as you are as well.

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

Interesting, fair enough. I will check it out! Curious as to the evidence that suggests otherwise. I saw at least the transcript that was timestamped (but not dated) saying at 6:25 he was read his rights and asked about a lawyer and by context it was assumed (but not fully confirmed) it was the 11th not the 12th. Am fully open to opposing ideas, I just wanna learn the truth and have no motive for anyone to be unfairly accused of anything, so you have proof to the contrary I would be interested in taking a look.

I do apologize if I came off as argumentative, that was not my intention. You usually face a very specific group of people on X that are defending TPUSA who seem disingenuous or uninformed. Or both!

Baron tho has on many times corrected himself on the record when he's gotten something wrong, even times where he wasn't called out for a false statement but his own further research showed he was wrong and he felt the duty to correct it, which I respect and which is what leads me to believe he is trustworthy in the sense he at least truly believes the things he presents and Isnt trying to deceive people. Down to keep an open civil convos with you if you are cool with that. I'll send you a request and a dm

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

I confused trial with hearing, good catch. Tune I to Baron Coleman if you want to see both sides. His episodes are long so it can be I to.idating starting a 3 hr podcast, but at least half the show is just him responding to super chats and answering questions/engaging with the audience. He's an actual lawyer, with a history in broadcasting, and puts on an excellent show. He has gone through everything available to the public and been able to explain how the legal process works, what we can make of the evidence we already have, what to expect to be presented based on court documents. He does a really good job and it's a fun show and he already has done deep dives on to many aspects of this case and been able to poke holes in it the way they will once the trial starts.

You can always just believe the algorithm that I'm assuming you are fed and take the stance that it's open and shut case like the media wants you to believe or you can learn a lot about it from Baron and others who have spent the past 9 months going through all this stuff meticulously and presenting his most conpelling finds in an entertaining light hearted way. It's good content honestly. I think a lot of people are just told bad things about these people from the online campaign orchestrated to try to control the narrative, but this case is going to be VERY different hen you typical court case. If you want to get hung up on me misusing one word and dismiss my entire position because of it that's cool. Just trying to share some compelling content with you. If you are interested and don't know where to start, I can suggest some good episodes! Let me know

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

@NewsBlast17 You can't be real? Or are just a troll lol I started using x at the end of last year, but have enjoyed it a good but. I don't m make my own posts, I like to find topics or takes that interest me and contribute with comments. I'm guessing your just a troll lol

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

I agree with most of what you said but Alex lately has seemed to have been playing a controlled op position. He still shines light on some of the broader things going on that other people are talking about but will play into certain things and ideas, like this post here, to mislead the people who are already awake to the corruption.

I don't think Alex has always done this (though it is possible). It seems a few years back, after the lawsuit, alex started to shift quite a bit and if I were to guess he was compromised due to the billion dollar lawsuit. He obviously cant just come out and mislead us about everything because that would be way too big of a red flag but in my opinion he is no longer being fully honest and is purposely manipulating his followers against his true will.

A lot of others see this too. I've been following Alex for almost 2 decades now and to me it is pretty obvious. I thought when info wars got shut down maybe he would go back to the old Alex like I suggested with this post but I'm starting to think that was not the case and maybe this was another stunt to try to earn back some credibility. When he says stuff like this though that the old Alex Jones would have immediately clocked as a manipulation tactic, I sadly think he's still doing their bidding.

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

A lot of us are aware of the whole Q idea that this is all a complex orchestrated long term strategy to bring the elite corruption into the public eye before being able to eliminate them.

You need to be able to at the very least entertain the idea that this is actually just another psyop to keep the ones most aware from speaking out against this administrations actions. I personally think that is what is really going on, but I stay open to the fact and even hope that I'm wrong and there are good guys really working to change the system for the better.

If this really was a secret plan plotting against the most powerful network of people in documented history, why would they be anonymously dropping secret breadcrumbs on the internet explaining whats going on? What function would that serve? Don't you think the elites they are fighting would catch on to it and be able to better counter it and prevent it?

I don't think any of us know for sure, we can all have strong opinions, but it really requires some open mindedness to analyze things from both perspectives and not tie themselves fully to either side until the gig is up.

[JoeOfEarth™ @JoeOfEarth]

I very rarely agree with your posts but I genuinely like this one! Its a good start, but you have to allow yourself to apply this mentality that you could be wrong about things across the board. I suspect this was not a genuine revelation but more of a contrived way of trying to put down the opposition once again. You and all of your closest allies are all also foreign agents of Israel. Try to remember that Israel is not the United States.