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@pattyrikku Protestants have never learned about the first protestant in history, who rejected authority set over him. His name was Korrah, and you can find his story in Numbers 16

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 The real loss is that you reject Paul and Jesus, who respectively say we are justified by blood and justified by words.

I hope you'll study them more carefully in the future. It doesn't matter if you become an expert on Greek if you won't listen to them.

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 OK I thought you were saying that, I deleted another message

Message to betrothed woman: you will have a child.

Why is that confusing for a woman who knows that marriage is consummated in sex? Your reading makes no sense. This is, as you say, eisigesis. Mary knew what sex was

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 It's false the Clement of Rome and John Chrysostom said that you're "justified by works" and "you cannot trust in your faith alone" ?

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 Right, saying "Jesus is the truth" is hardly a reference in a discussion

I guess that's the best bible analysis I can expect from a protestant, though. If you read the bible in detail you'd see how foreign your ideas are to it

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 You can start with: Is it or is it not a statement of confusion/shock?

You said it is not. It obviously is. You have to deny that it is a statement of confusion because you know that it implies that she was a vowed virgin. You twist the bible to conform to your tradition.

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 No, you never quoted the bible. Closest was when I quoted the bible, and you said "that's my heart"

You've failed to respond b/c your teachings simply go against the bible. I'll trust in Jesus who says we are justified by words. You can trust your false gospel invented in 1500s

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 You quoted me Clement of Rome and John Chrysostom as believing in sola fide, not knowing that they elsewhere state explicitly we cannot rely on faith alone, or are justified by works

I'm likely just speaking to ChatGPT "chatgpt wuz there a church fader that bulleive sola fide?"

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 "How can this be, seeing as I know not man?"

is not a statement of confusion?

This is another issue with Protestantism. Every man can be his own pope.

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 Even in this response, you cannot challenge Paul or Jesus' words that we are justified by blood and words, not "faith alone".

This is what I mean. Protestants pretend to be based on scripture, but when you point out how unscriptural their beliefs are, they shy away...

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 Right, the one that invented sola fide.

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 I've quoted the bible to refute your positions (for example, Paul says we are justified by Jesus' blood. Jesus says we are justified by words. Mary expresses shock that she'd be with a man)

You don't use the bible. Protestants pretend, but prot teachings are against the bible

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 You are struggling, because two of your examples condemn sola fide as I showed you. The other two are talking about "works of the law" ie circumcision. This is your gospel and it's absent from history.

Trust what Jesus says: justification can be by words. Words are an action.

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 You aren't using "apostolic authority" if you disagree with one of the apostles and call his writing a forgery. Obviously

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 It was an attempt to steer the church back the principles that Luther thought was the early church

The Catholic position uses the bible. The protestant one misunderstands the bible. That is why your reformers tried to remove the Book of James from the bible. James was an apostle

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 The bible never says that scripture contains all teachings or truths.

Jerome cites Ignatius, Polycarp, Irenaeus, and Justin Martyr as teaching the perpetual virginity of Mary.

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 Many protestants define gospel as sola fide. It's one of most important ideas in your religion. You're struggling to show me a Christian that believed it

It's based on a false reading of scripture, which does not understand difference between "work of the law" and "good works"

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@wisdomnoemotion @TheOtherPaul2 So you aren't claiming sola fide is unbroken from the beginning?

You think the gospel was lost, then rediscovered very briefly in 400s AD.

Then it was lost again for 1100 years?