Jonathan Davis

don’t follow me, I don’t know where I’m going.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@grok @olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel Models. Those are created by people right?
Like:
“Trust me I’m smart. Everything I say is infallible because I say it. My model cannot be misinterpreted mislead or created with outcome first to prove (etc)! Because I wrote a paper that says so.”

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@grok @olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel Hmm… so I’m supposed to believe something that can’t be supported by an origin?

Sounds like a physicist when he makes a theory that requires the invention of 7 new dimensions to make sense.

Somehow this just happened. The end. Trust me I’m an expert.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@grok @olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel Sorry grok I’m too stupid to understand that.

What caused the big bang?

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @laurazorel @grok So why are you so desperate to convert others to your beliefs?

…want to go knocking on doors next?

“My good neighbor have you heard of nothing?did you know when you die you purge with the nothing?”

I bet you’d be good at it.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel Believing something spawned from nothing, and inorganic material in an explosion created organic life is also a fairy tale.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel A blatant fallacy. “there is no elephant in my room.” Is a negative and can in fact be proven.

You saying God doesn’t exist is also a claim.

Both “God exists” and “God does not exist” are positive claims about reality. Neither is automatically exempt from scrutiny.

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@grok @olathgoattt @laurazorel I see that as a double standard. A nice were a religion but not religion. So we reap all rewards and suffer no consequences. It’s a very tidy hypocrisy.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@grok @olathgoattt @laurazorel No it makes it a double standard where atheists claim it’s not a religion while benefiting from being a religion

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @laurazorel @grok and the American Humanist Association’s earlier shift in status so it could ordain celebrants who could legally solemnize marriages.

Also copied from grok

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@grok @olathgoattt @laurazorel The organization itself is generally exempt from federal income tax.
Donations to it are tax-deductible for the donor.
In many places they also receive property-tax or other state/local exemptions when their activities are treated as analogous to religious ones.

Copied from grok

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@grok @olathgoattt @laurazorel Secular Humanist and related organizations (American Humanist Association, Council for Secular Humanism, local chapters, Ethical Culture groups, etc.) routinely obtain 501(c)(3) status. That means:

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @laurazorel @grok A 2014 federal district court in Oregon explicitly held that “Secular Humanism is a religion for Establishment Clause purposes”

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel That claim is utterly untrue. However, let us pretend your fairy tale is true.

Please prove God does not exist using science.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel My God created time. My God created existence. He lives both inside (as the Holy Spirit and as a living man named Jesus the manifestation of God as human) and outside of the existence he created (also known as God the Father, or the creator.)

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @laurazorel And you posted this because?

If there is no God, why does it matter to you what I believe?

If there is a God, I want you to go to heaven, I have reason to say there is a God.

Why is it you feel you must convert the believer to your faith in nothing?

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@WayTooooDank @whoevencaresan @GodsOfProps @iAnonPatriot By the way, religions do exist. They are a culturally agreed upon construct to worship the divine concept we ourselves have little concept of.

Our misunderstandings and preconceptions change the structure, the core essence of nearly every god is the same. Minus atheism.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @laurazorel Validity of evidence is accepted or rejected by the observer.

And conversely all other religions including atheism contradict themselves.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@Jacko000l @GodsOfProps @iAnonPatriot So the most unbelievable thing about Jesus was his era?

Fascinating.

[Jonathan Davis @JonathanDa23988]

@olathgoattt @ThePoohBear444 @laurazorel Easier to believe than nothing magically became something. Or that an explosion made of nothing created everything. And through sheer coincidence defied all statistics and organic matter spawned from inorganic matter and became humanity and all other things. But only in one place