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@kcisc I wasn’t describing myself as a registered healthcare professional until I was one. I’m just trying to say that you can gain experience as a student not just on placement.
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@kcisc And before you ask, I am an FY2 doctor working in the West Midlands. I have a lot to learn to be an ‘experienced clinician’, but that doesn’t mean that I am not a good doctor.
My GMC number is 8116015 should you feel the need to check
@kcisc Seeing both allows me to recognise that sometimes there isn’t an academic replacement for practical experience. Attending a cardiac arrest as a solo responder for the ambulance service probably taught me more about emergencies then doing a ward round on a T&O placement
@kcisc I’ve known some new clinicians to be very capable and gain experience quickly due to their ability to learn and absorb knowledge.
I’ve also known clinicians who have been doing the role for a long time to have poor clinical standards, mainly due to their attitude to learning
@kcisc I agree that they are not a registered healthcare professional, although they don’t claim to be that. I don’t see a massive issue with them describing themselves as an event medical professional.
I also don’t believe that time in role = experience = competence
@kcisc And I agree, although if you’re dedicated you can gain a good amount of experience in a short time
Out of curiosity, how much experience do you think an entry level FREC3 responder needs to be ‘experienced’ if they also have clinical experience from medical school?
@kcisc I am all for exposing people that pretend to be things they’re not through ambiguous titles and job descriptions, but that’s not what’s happening in this case. If you have a problem with the company expose the company, not some random poor student that just wants a part time job
@kcisc Ok… now I’m confused. The original post was about a medical student who worked part time as an event responder, which seems reasonable to me. I have no vested interests or conflicts of interest except that a few years ago my CV would’ve looked exactly the same
@kcisc And I would expect their Doctors, Paramedics, Nurses to be experienced medical professionals, and to a certain extent their EMTs and ECAs. No one is expecting the FREC3 responders (again, an entry level job) to be world leading clinicians. Everyone was a new clinician once
@kcisc And they may well have some background or have gained lots of experience. I had been event ambulance crew for 6 years by the time I was a 4th year medical student, I learned more on the road than at medical school at times.
@kcisc Then I don’t understand the point you’re making with this particular post? A FREC 3 responder on an event with HCPs doesn’t have to have a wealth of experience, it’s an entry level first aid role. They’re not pretending to be a doctor whilst a medical student?
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