@4NonyaBusiness@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN Can't just remove concent after the action. If you concent to sex, you concent to pregnancy, regardless of birth control utilization due to the known failure rate (ranging from ~1% IUDs to 28% (spermicide)).
@4NonyaBusiness@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN People still know how babies are made. Killing the human you created for selfish desires is evil and shouldn't be tolerated.
You don't just get to kill someone to not deal with the consequences of your actions.
@4NonyaBusiness@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN The womb is where the pre born reside. Developmentally that is all that changed the day before birth to the day after.
@4NonyaBusiness@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN Some would say life of another outranks someone else's rights when they're not threatened. Women are biologically designed to bear children, so what fatal risk would there be to warrant such a violation of another?
@4NonyaBusiness@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN The child also has a right to life and bodily autonomy. They are two separate bodies; murdering one for convenience of the other is evil. You don't punish the innocent.
>>to risk her own life health and welfare for the benefit of others
Sir, have you heard of Christ?
@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN@4NonyaBusiness So you're arbitrarily setting the date on which you give humans person-rights because you're somehow better or higher than them. See how that's unjust?
The child exists and is alive since conception. The unjust killing of a human defines murder. Personhood is irrelevant.
@GryphiusEitel@kindaifffyyy To baptize all nations in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Once again, infants would be included under "all".
@GryphiusEitel@kindaifffyyy Some would say infants are under "all men" and baptism is necessary for salvation according to the apostolic fathers. Irenaeus says explicitly to baptize children, and he's a lot closer to the Apostles than we are.
@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN@4NonyaBusiness So not human rights, person rights. When does person good begin? What would make birth so special that the child becomes a person as opposed to "just a human"?
@Schozbinn@ZELLKLUMPEN@4NonyaBusiness I don't know, Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers thought the God-given rights appeal was quite strong when they signed the Declaration of Independence. One of those rights is Life.
@NorthernerJoey@_ziZi_Zizi Dude's gonna pretend Al-Hayat Central Media isn't real and deny the 21 Coptic Christian martyrs of 2015 while having "Catholic" in his bio. Such a shame.