@DynastyGoat2282@EthanGilworth@NoFilm_Analysis Your Hunter argument is fine. I acknowledged that while pointing out that it doesn't invalidate the rest of the model bc of the unique dual position setup.
You are now saying that criticism is good while insulting someone for giving you some. Take your own advice.
@DynastyGoat2282@EthanGilworth@NoFilm_Analysis The Hunter prediction might over index on draft capital considering his positional uncertainty, but he is the only WR in the data set with this question. Why would you dismiss Ethan's entire model over an obvious exception?
@NoFilm_Analysis Now remove the non early declares and you have 2 hits, a guy on pace for 1139yds his 2nd yr thru 7 games, and Golden. All but Golden have similar target comp excuses.
@JoeA_NFL I saw this game live and was upset he missed Loveland on the Tucker Kraft special. Didn’t realize Caleb got hit in his front leg on the release.
@NoFilm_Analysis@JetsFaninPhilly His right foot is irrefutably inbounds. The left does not have the frame available to confirm from my phone but there is a ref right on the line signaling TD.
From the shadow- it’s out if the ball of the foot touches first but the toe is pointed inbounds so if that hit first…
Two 2nd yr, 1st rd WRs who have not had good chemistry with their QBs over 2 seasons, are on great offenses with great OCs. Both had injury issues last yr. Both have legit target comp.
WRX - 1034 routes w/ QB, 1.11 YPRR
WRY - 688 routes w/ QB, 1.98 YPRR
Why is X > Y?
@LanceJo90200999@DevyEusuf He's a solid account if this is who Fusue is shading. Makes his own visuals which are beautiful, is pretty good at identifying landmines, and has been sharing content pretty freely for years. Mentally filtering out victory laps is a precondition to following ff analysts.
@pjfoster1313@NoFilm_Analysis@jmthrivept I didn’t say it did? I’m discussing Bond’s draft stock which Jeff suggested was 2nd rd, NoFilm countered he wasn’t convinced, and I added a data threshold Bond met which recent has supported that type of profile going early.
@NoFilm_Analysis@jmthrivept Early declare with sub 4.4 speed is almost always a 3rd or better. Trying to think of a recent example- maybe Kenny Stills? I’m not sure this kind of profile gets outside the 2nd.
Scouts could easily dismiss production with Bama and Texas target competition + Ewers.
@HaydenWinks They essentially made him somewhere between Xavier Worthy and Dallas Turner thru yr4 with $11.67-13.67 mil 5th and 6th year options, mostly guaranteed thru 2028. Great for him, much better than how Jakobi Meyers was treated as a UDFA.
@Karm4Chameleon@dynastyPierre3@NoFilm_Analysis Can you find me a single instance of a drafted WR with under 100 rec yds in their first 3 yrs out of HS becoming an impactful fantasy player? Only examples are QB converts. Bryce was always a WR and had 1 catch for 7 yds while the most athletic player on his team in 3 yrs
@Karm4Chameleon@dynastyPierre3@NoFilm_Analysis People have no qualms saying Adonai Mitchell is bad at football bc he minimally produced in the SEC - which is a fair critique. Adonai had 3 more TD catches as a true freshman than Lance had total catches in his first 3 yrs out of HS...
@Karm4Chameleon@dynastyPierre3@NoFilm_Analysis Lance is probably a sacrificial X. Did absolutely nothing before age 22 against weak competition. Coker was good much earlier in college. Alien athletic profiles with almost zero early production are probably not good at football.
@PhillyNick100 It’s just the “time value of money” concept being applied to a competitive window. Maye has 3 years left on his rookie deal and NE was relatively weak at WR. AJB today helps them more than maybe AJB in 2 yrs- so they discount the future picks’ present value.
@IronElk27@WillieKnowsBall@HypeFFL Willie is a good dude. The value argument is defensible enough. I’d argue Jamo’s situation gets tougher if LaPorta plays most of the yr (4.7 targets/g last yr with Sam, 7.4 t/g without) so give me the upside of Burden getting featured