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@LGBTariQ Yehhh when I heard Nasheed talking about being pressed to flip sides then doing it then people STILL falling for the okiedoke I said ok. These mfrs just not smart. lol I don’t mean that in a mean way. They just don’t like to read
Since 2024, Have FBA created any of the following:
- Lineage Based Scholarships
- Grants for farmers who lost funding
- FBA Business Expo
- A grocery store
- A FBA farmers market
- FBA Business Development Agency
- FBA Housing Assistance Program
- FBA Summer Leadership Academy
- Anything?
The FBA thought they were going to sneak in and redefine what it is to be Black or Black American
But they ran into a wall of black Americans who are not having it
Congratulations to my African brother AJ Dybantsa for being the number 1 overall pick in the draft, hope he has an amazing career at Washington.
FBA y'all make sure y'all salute this black excellence, stop hatin cause y'all can't be him.
@grok I’m not done with you yet: send this to the FBA:There's a growing framework, going by the name FBA — Foundational Black Americans — and its precursor ADOS, American Descendants of Slavery. The claim, stated plainly: Black identity in the United States begins with enslavement, not with Africa. The designation applies to roughly 43 million Americans tracing direct descent from the Freedmen — those enslaved in the US and emancipated after the 13th Amendment. Under this framework, if your people were not enslaved in the United States specifically, you are not FBA. That excludes African immigrants, Caribbean immigrants, Afro-Latinos, and their descendants, regardless of how long they've lived in the country.
The official literature goes further than a simple lineage marker. It explicitly states that people with "dual allegiances to different ethnic groups and cultures" should be viewed with reservations — even comparing immigrant-descended or mixed-heritage Black Americans to the Portuguese Lançados, who married into West African royal families and were later accused of helping facilitate the transatlantic slave trade.
## What Pan-Africanism Actually Said
No serious Pan-African thinker ever claimed that Black Americans, Jamaicans, Haitians, and Ghanaians are the same. Each carries its own history, its own colonial experience, its own culture, its own specific wounds. Pan-Africanism never argued sameness. It argued something more precise and more durable: a shared root, through the transatlantic trade and the broader colonial project, that placed every one of these distinct peoples inside one larger structure of mutual stakes and mutual defense. Different branches. Same tree. Support flowing in both directions
Here is where their lineage argument collapses under its own weight, not under an outside attack.
Consider Black Americans who fled Jim Crow — to Canada, to Cuba, to Liberia, anywhere else that offered something closer to safety. Their grandchildren, born outside the United States, descend directly from the exact qualifying lineage this framework claims to center: people enslaved in the US, emancipated as Freedmen, carrying that specific historical wound forward. By the framework's own logic, those descendants should still belong. But because the test quietly runs on current residency rather than actual ancestry, they don't. The fence excludes the very people whose blood the fence claims to be protecting, the moment they're not standing on the right side of a border.
There is no historical case of a politically isolated, internally fractured Black population extracting major concessions from a state purely through domestic pressure, with no outside leverage. The Civil Rights Act did not pass in a vacuum — it passed inside a Cold War context where global opinion, including African and Caribbean political pressure, mattered to how the United States wanted to present itself to the world. Reparations, if they ever arrive, will need that same kind of weight applied again,
The cruelest part of this fence is not that it asks people to believe something false about where they come from. The DNA does not move. The historical record does not move. No framework, however confidently stated, can rewrite West and Central African ancestry into something else,
What it asks instead is worse in a quieter way. It asks people to abandon the very community that would stand with them once the truth of their origin is fully known. It takes the one fact nobody disputes — that Black Americans descend from Africans brought across the Atlantic — and uses it to argue that the people sharing that exact root should not be trusted, should not be counted, should not be stood with.
That is handing the opposition something it could never have taken by force: a divided front, built from the inside, using the community's own history as the material.
But IF showing that the foundational architecture of Black American culture — its political vocabulary, its music, its literary tradition, its civil rights leadership, its highest political offices — was built substantially by people with direct immigrant parentage, THEN “Black American culture, defined to exclude the diaspora” becomes incoherent. You’d be excluding the people who built the load-bearing walls.
Here’s the case, organized by domain:
Political vocabulary and movement leadership. Garvey gave Black America its first mass nationalist movement and economic self-determination framework. Carmichael coined “Black Power” itself — the term cannot be separated from his Trinidadian-formed politics. Malcolm X’s entire ideological foundation ran through his mother’s Grenadian-Garveyite household before he became Black America’s most quoted political voice. Remove the diaspora from this lineage and you don’t have a diminished version of Black Power politics — you don’t have the vocabulary at all.
Institutional firsts. Shirley Chisholm, Colin Powell, Eric Holder, Kamala Harris — first Black woman in Congress, first Black Secretary of State, first Black Attorney General, first Black/South Asian VP. Every one of these “first Black American to hold X” milestones, the ones most cited as evidence of Black American progress, has direct immigrant parentage at its center. The proof of Black American institutional advancement is, disproportionately, diaspora advancement.
Music. Hip-hop’s two foundational coastal centers both have this baked in: Biggie (Jamaican mother) anchors East Coast rap; the genre’s Bronx birthplace itself emerged from DJ Kool Herc, a Jamaican immigrant who brought sound-system culture directly from Kingston. You cannot narrate hip-hop’s origin story without a Jamaican immigrant standing at the very first party.
The test that closes the argument: try to write a history of Black American culture — political, musical, institutional — using only people with zero immigrant parentage in the last two generations, and see what’s left. You lose Black Power’s name, you lose hip-hop’s birthplace, you lose three of the most-cited “first Black American” institutional milestones. What’s left isn’t “real” Black American culture purified of outside influence — it’s a culture with its foundation removed, because the foundation was never separable from the diaspora in the first place.
Ira Berlin! Ira Berlin doesn’t support a FBA argument. He’s the opposite of one — which means if you invoking him to argue Black Americans aren’t African, you are either misreading Berlin or hoping I won’t check. I did:
**What Berlin actually argues:** Berlin frames American history through “great migrations that made and remade African and African American life.” The first was the forcible deportation of Africans to North America in the 17th and 18th centuries, followed by forced transfer into the American interior in the 19th century, then the mid-20th century migration from the South to the urban North, and finally the arrival of continental Africans and Caribbean-descended people in the late 20th century. Every single migration in his framework starts from Africa and tracks forward. There is no migration in Berlin’s model that originates anywhere else.
Berlin’s organizing concept is “roots and routes” — meaning Black American identity is built through repeated movement and re-rooting, but the root, every time, traces back to Africa. He argues the repeated migrations helped solidify the creation of African-American culture, with the bond between people, created by common experience, becoming as important as the bond to specific places. That’s an argument about *how* a culture gets built through dispersal and resettlement — it’s a diaspora-formation thesis, not a diaspora-denial thesis.
Berlin’s most influential work traced the rise and fall of Atlantic Creoles, mixed-race descendants of encounters between Europeans and Africans on the west coast of Africa — meaning even his most complex, nuanced category of people still has Africa as the literal point of origin, not somewhere else.
So here’s the actual move happening: you name-dropped a legitimate, Bancroft Prize-winning historian whose entire scholarly career is built on documenting the African-to-American migration chain, presumably hoping the citation alone would read as support. It does the opposite. Berlin is one of the strongest possible sources *against* the FBA argument, not for it — he’d need to be badly misquoted or never actually read to be used the way it’s being used here.
The honest, sharp response: which page of Berlin argues against African origin, because no such page exists. Berlin’s entire body of work is a chronicle of the African diaspora’s formation in America, not a case for its erasure.