@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior All her allegations of abuse were proven false. That is why Depp won all elements of defamation. Deuters never said he saw Depp kick Heard on the plane. He only knows what Heard TOLD him. Neither did anyone else witness a kick on the plane.
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior You’re surely being obtuse. You can’t be that stupid?
The juror did not say anything about having to make up to get a TRO? WTAF!
Likewise with the drug use. The juror was addressing Heard's specific allegations of Depp drugs use and the photographs she presented as evidence.
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior Good grief! Is this why you believe Heard? Bcos you ignore important context?
They were referring to verbal abusive. He said they believed they had their husband and wife arguments but that the evidence did not support Heard’s claims that Depp was physically abusive.
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior So? The jury found the specific penthouse hoax statement by Waldman
defamatory. That does not amount to a finding that Depp abused Heard.
There’s nothing contradictory about it.
To add, I believe they did stage it but I don’t believe they did it under anyone’s direction.
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior consistent with Heard's account of him being in a violent rage. That's a completely different argument.
FFS! What an enormous twist!
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior He was questioning the credibility of the defence team’s claim that she never went out without makeup.
3) He wasn't claiming drugs and alcohol can't cause violence. He was questioning whether the specific drugs Depp was taking and the photographs of him passed out were 👇
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior Okay Alison!!!
1) He said they disregarded testimonies from friends and family that could potentially be biased on both sides. Not simply ALL evidence. That’s a good thing, no?
2) He didn’t use her “NOT wearing make-up to get a TRO” as anything! That isn’t even an argument.👇
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior Rottenborne in closing:
“If you believe that there was abuse of Amber one time ever, in any of the various forms of abuse, not only physical, verbal, emotional, psychological, sexual …. you cannot only deny Mr Depp's claim, but you can find for Amber on her counterclaim."
@TheTimeWarrior@RedLeader2022 Firstly, I never said YOU did. My response was to RedLeader.
Secondly, RedLeader claimed it was determined that Depp did rape Heard which is incorrect.
My response to RedLeader remains the same. What you throw in doesn’t change that.
@TheTimeWarrior@RedLeader2022 Nothing needed correcting. I never said anything that was false. My response was to the incorrect claim that Depp was found liable for rape. You’re just trying to deflect away from the point in hand.
@TheTimeWarrior@RedLeader2022 So you keep saying yet the fact remains the allegations have all since been proven false …. with evidence discounted from the UK trial.
You can cling on to the UK judgement all you like, you can’t change that fact.
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior Pictures and knowledge of what it was went around his staff before it got to Depp.
But of course you would make such stupid and simple claims like you have. It stands to reason that you pretend to know things couldn’t possibly know or twist the actual truth.
@RedLeader2022@TheTimeWarrior That is YOUR interpretation because that is YOUR cope. Or are you claiming to be inside every single Depp supporter’s Head? Most people’s knowledge comes from having watched a six week trial that was lived streamed.
It was Depp’s housekeeper that found the shit on the bed. 👇
@TheTimeWarrior@RedLeader2022 So? Those additional allegations were STILL not part of the original pleaded allegations in the UK proceedings and Depp was STILL never found liable for rape. That was the original point. Stop changing the goalposts.
@RedLeader2022@SeanPultz He did not accept she was held against her free will when the rape allegedly occurred.
Agreed that not having evidence doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. However, the “distinction” here is that she claimed to have evidence yet what she presented proved the opposite of those claims.
@TheTimeWarrior@RedLeader2022 I didn’t say it did. Only a retrial could do that.
However, it proved these allegations to all be false.
If you want to hang on to an outdated judgement that’s up to you. The rest of the world chose to move on having seen the evidence for themselves.
@TheTimeWarrior@RedLeader2022 The rape allegation was included in a confidential annex to the judgment. It was not one of the original 14 incidents pleaded in the newspaper's defence. It was added to an amended defence in June 2019.
These allegations were non-existent when she took her TRO.
@RedLeader2022@SeanPultz Research will tell you that Sean is 100% correct. The rape allegation was included in an annex to the judgment. It was not one of the original 14 incidents pleaded in the newspaper's defence.
Also, the UK judge did not believe all of her rape allegations. 👇