@BatkuEst@catfany66@bloomjpg I’ve always wondered this, the last time Ludwig talked abt hasan was like when mogul mail was still a thing yet he’s still constantly called hasans lapdog or some shit while simultaneously getting hated by Hasan fans saying he hates hasan and is a terrible friend to him.
@_XCocorico_ Didn’t mix sky base first, which made swight pearl twice to initiate a fight and refuse to come down and just crossbow spam and camp till reset? How do u want swight to fight mixes skybase without giving an opening other than skybase?
@Ntlsieuxinh@sunlovesshark Read it like 5 years ago but wasn’t it bc denji held no malice or ill-intention toward makima so her ability couldn’t activate? Kind of like an Escanor vs Estarossa thing where he only feels pity or smth rather than hate to avoid the commandment.
@p8dvqf2552@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC But dang a shit-ton of ppl were using him which is why I say he still had a spot in meta(being the best shielder). Also love xiangling(stole that comp from twitter lol)
@p8dvqf2552@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC Fairs, He had the kazuha thing where they just kinda fitted on most teams bc they lacked a good fourth (aside from dendro) which kept his usage afloat until natlan where no one really cared abt surviving anymore and genshin finally started pumping out support power creep.
@p8dvqf2552@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC -but y’all genuinely needa do some research of any sorts before thrashing on the next washed char that succumbed to power creep. Like just bc a 6 year old xiangling is trash now doesn’t mean she was never good. But y’all talk like she was the worst pyro oat.
@p8dvqf2552@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC Is this genuinely how people argue these days, ofc not a single “relevant” char uses him now but back in the day he was good in 4geo, xiao, and Hu tao teams(ganyu had her morgana going on) solely for survival bc other than like bennett and kuki all healers were some hot ass.-
@p8dvqf2552@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC I don’t even own zhongli or like him but like being in the genshin space nowadays is literally just watching a bunch of newcomers larp about the old meta to trash on chars. Now I play in Chinese and use bilibili for content so Idk what’s up the en meta tier list and discussions-
@CaRt3r111@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC -in sumeru and held s+ for almost all of later fontaine. Which again by that time it was prob just nostalgia and players suck at surviving but it was still very comfortable in the meta with higher usage rates than current mauvika.(too much chars rn tbf)
@CaRt3r111@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC Now I know how useless abyss usage rates are at representing a characters strength. But I think it represents how well a character was positioned at that meta which was my main argument. Now if ur willing to consult the graph (my memory) zhongli almost never fell out of S tier-
@Erbiarts@FlipMeAC It took Zhongli until end of fontaine to slowly fade out of the meta completely. She’ll fell off and I can only hope they treat her retirement well….