@Willibab89@thoughts17181@elfmagerofl 8. Again, it doesn't need a justification, it just *is*, God is not a moral agent, He is the ground of morality
9. Cuz He is the ground of morality
I think all of your questions are cleared up if you read about Divine simplicity
@Willibab89@thoughts17181@elfmagerofl 5. You're once again presupposing innocence
6. Easy, if He does it, it's good, since He is good, as in He is goodness itself
7. Why wouldn't it? If He does it, it's good, all actions and causes exist within His power, so there's nothing He could do that wouldn't be justified
@Willibab89@thoughts17181@elfmagerofl "how does any of this establish that ending an innocent persons life is morally justified?"
You're making many assumptions there
>That the life ends
>That the person is innocent
>That it needs to be justified for you specifically
None of those logically follow
@Willibab89@thoughts17181@elfmagerofl Thomistic Metaphysics are the logical conclusion of metaphysics, so...
"Even if I agreethat existence itself is good, how does that establish that the being responsible for existence is morally good?"
Because that would make the being existence itself, so it would be purely good
@DigitalRefugees@FeelsGuy2003 The church has always been pro immigration, you must be new here
Mass immigration is a different thing tho, and the Pope is against it, cuz the Church is
The Church is also not Pro-Open Borders, and neither is the Pope
@Willibab89@thoughts17181@elfmagerofl "but youre starting with the assumption that God is goodness itself. Thats something you would first need to establish"
Yeah, because that's what Metaphysics tell us through the transcendentals, specifically the convertibility of being and goodness and divine simplicity
@Willibab89@thoughts17181@elfmagerofl I'll bite
"Why would creating and sustaining someones existence automatically give you the moral right to end it?"
Because then you are being, so you are goodness itself, so morality is dictated by your nature of being, simple as
You're welcome to read into Thomism for more info