@arfurenglish@PykusPiraticus@RupertLowe10@LincolnWatson86 Two things can be true at the same time.
The Govt we're unwilling to publicly admit a downside of our relaxed labour markets, which was what was previously described.
It was rampant in certain industries of especially East European tradesmen ditching tax at year end
@PykusPiraticus@RupertLowe10@LincolnWatson86 Similar as to the real reason why IR35 was really brought in.
An attempt to curtail sham LTD's where the owner would go drop off the grid back home when year end approached and just resurface with a new identity.
@abcdfg374256115@En59195453@valdombre Growth is possible, the problem is ultimately western debt levels are unsustainable to be turn it over.
People obsessing about immigration bringing growth is trying to justify a glorified accounting trick at this point.
A debt write off is really required.
@En59195453@valdombre The problem is GDP growth also needs to be high enough to justify high immigration, most western states are still seeing crap returns with GDP per captia.
It's a lazy outlook to just assume immigration alone brings higher GDP
@krubner@MarkoWathen@Michaeljhandy@blackroomsec That's not the point being made, the point is the real costs haven't yet hit the average consumer.
Once they are passed on, which is beginning certain dominos will fall.
No one is saying AI is crap but the current hype is based off mega cheap rates which will soon be gone
@MarkoWathen@krubner@Michaeljhandy@blackroomsec And they were priced at a more realistic goal.
Current AI benefits have been off the back of dirt cheap 'teaser' rates, the AI net benefits will be far more rigorous once the real costs are factored in.
@tagliatelier@CJ__McG@AaronBastani I notice you avoided one of my initial points.
Foreign aid and ballooning charity has done nothing but expand the very problem you're seeking to solve.
I don't consider myself insulated, I'm merely pointing out the incredible contradictions that exist on this topic.
@tagliatelier@CJ__McG@AaronBastani And the science was up for sale throughout history to get the answers needed at the time.
I love the mythical idea scientists suddenly stopped being for sale.
@tagliatelier@CJ__McG@AaronBastani You're also acknowledging the original point, if people at that level aren't prepared to acknowledge it as a problem......why sit here lecturing lesser people with magnitudes less influence?
Climate change concerns is otherwise a western middle class fetish
@tagliatelier@CJ__McG@AaronBastani On the basic premise you're talking about people who do and have setup long term dynasties. These people have to live somewhere.
Again, the data farm energy needs would blow out the water our energy needs by magnitudes.
@tagliatelier@CJ__McG@AaronBastani Simple, if you buy into the idea the establishment is all in on the scale of data farms coming and the energy demands to meet them, the inescapable conclusion is the establishment knows it's bollocks too
Otherwise they wouldn't build them, they wouldn't shit in their own garden
@OieThebranch@JulesBywaterLee@Inevitablewest If corporate interests rule then you'd never hear about climate change, climate science wouldn't see a penny of public money and events like COP21 wouldn't exist.
It's farcical to take things like COP21 seriously when in the same breath the same entities justify data farms
@OieThebranch@JulesBywaterLee@Inevitablewest Considering they tax you on the basis then yes but it's absurd to worry about climate change whilst public money has ballooned third world populations for 40 years
Ultimately when the sun dies in 5 billion years no one will ever care about what the temperature was in May 2026
@JulesBywaterLee@Inevitablewest If Westerns Governments believed in this shit their actions would marry up to it.
All foreign aid would have been slashed 40 years ago, they wouldn't be increasing immigration levels and not a single data farm would be allowed to be built.
@Carl0vj3@TSnooker102 The issue is that actions don't marry up the message.
If western Governments were serious about this then high immigration wouldn't be allowed, the justification for data farms wouldn't exist and foreign aid would have been slashed 30 years ago.
You're taxed by the enablers
@CJ__McG@AaronBastani I wouldn't mind the alarmism if the actions married up to it.
Why balloon third world populations with 1st world living standards via aid if this were the crisis it's painted to be?
Or why now build power hungry data farms if climate change is that imperative?
@KnucklesNp26684@CharltonN2 So basically the first thing any legit climate scientist should be demanding for is lower immigrations and cutting off all foreign aid since it's done nothing but balloon third world populations for 40 years