@MeidasTouch The Dominos are starting to fall. Rudy, u can't drink this away, your political career is OVER. your ability to live the rich and famous lifestyle is OVER. You should run to Jack Smith and spill the beans unless you want to die in prison. it's up to you.
@BestForBritain it's the Boris Cult. If u show them the tape they will cry fake news. Or, you are taking it out of context. it doesn't matter, the hard core Boris fan boys believe every word that comes out of his mouth, it's like arguing with flat earthers.
@norightturns1@OccupyDemocrats Well, anyone who took up arms to destroy the United States of America. Those who fought against the Army of the United States, you know, the Country you live in. When Generals and politicians form an Army to fight against the US Army I consider them traitors.
@Alfredale88 @hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson The quotes of Jesus Christ to treat others as you would like to be treated is an indirect condemnation of slavery. Since he never responded, I will ask u , bro'. Do you think Jesus Christ would condemn slavery or just shrug his shoulders and say, 'Tough luck dude, deal" ...
@mericangoy@TheDadMartigan@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson PS, Read up on Reconstruction history to see how badly we dealt with it. why we are still having to discuss it today. It took until 1965 until most African Americans could vote.
@mericangoy@TheDadMartigan@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson Not when nutbags like Bachman are defending it, not when so many Americans fly the rebel flag and fight, today, to keep statues of Confederate traitors up in city squares. We didn't do a good job "dealing with it"
@mericangoy@Charlie19788@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson It is not off topic, it is pointless. You seem to be using it as a bizarre way to excuse or mitigate those Americans involved in the slave trade. Just because we didn't invent it means nothing in our culpability in using and preserving it. Others did it first is not a defense.
@loiejean @OccupyDemocrats Look at the areas where segragation yellow dog democrats lived, voted during the jim Crow era. They all vote for Republicans today. The jim Crow dems just switched parties. Those African Americans who were allowed to vote always voted Republican. Ask yourself, why did they switch
@mericangoy@Charlie19788@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson The discussion was about American slavery, and Bachman saying it was not a sin. I will ask again, what does that fact that other Africans and Europeans were involved with the slave trade have to do with Americans involvement and responsibility?
@mericangoy@Charlie19788@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson ....noble cause and the leaders of that foul movement heroes that should be given honors and statues in our City Squares. I don't understand anyone who is not disgusted and outraged by those folks. That wave that nasty flag of traitors with pride.
@mericangoy@Charlie19788@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson I never said that chattel slavery was the invention of America. never. Saying, "well we were not the only one doing it" is a shitty defense. We have never fullt faced what we did, there are always people making excuses. There are those who want to consider the Confederacy a ,,,,,
@mericangoy@Charlie19788@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson What does other Africans, or other Europeans involved in the slave trade, do to exonerate or justify having statues of traitors and slavery advocates in our public squares. So what, others were involved with slavery. So that means we should honor those generals? Why?
@mericangoy@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson ....who fought to preserve that awful institution were presented with the crystal clear evidence of the evil of slavery and either greed or hate or both blinded them to absolute clear logic of the arguments against it
@mericangoy@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson Specific to America? no. "the norm"? It was pointed out to the people of that time, that it was evil, sinful, immoral The abolition movement in the UK and America was loud about the absolute evil of that rotten movement and they eventually prevailed, in that time. So those.....
@mericangoy@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson ..And are the confederates absolved of guilt in the kidnapping, 'Oh, we didn't kidnap or transport the slaves, we almost are morally obligated to enslave them, they have no way to get back to their homes' What sophistry you are peddling.
@mericangoy@hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson Why are u trying to make technical excuses for the slave traders? Do you think the morally depraved middlemen in the chain of torture and kidnapping of Africans are somehow absolved of guilt in the kidnapping? "Oh, we only transported them, we didn't actually do the kidnapping."
@Alfredale88 @hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson ....approve, condone the brutal treatment of African American slaves in the Confederacy. Please make the argument if you think Jesus would be fine with it, I dare you. Plus, precisely how was I claiming victimhood, point to what I wrote that caused u to write that rubbish
@Alfredale88 @hall_peno@mattmoses@harryjsisson Alfred, I did answer the question. peno thought he was being clever because there are scripture passages that tell slaves to follow their masters. First, bibilical slavery is mostly entirely different then southern chattel slavery. More importantly, Jesus Christ would never...