2 Timothy 3:16
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”
"What is Scripture? Scripture is the complete, written revelation of God—breathed out by the Holy Ghost, recorded by inspired men, preserved as the unified, infallible, and sufficient Revelation of God."
@CertainSpeaks Hebrews 6–7 doesn’t deny the Godhead — it explains Jesus’ eternal priesthood. If anything, it strengthens the case for Christ’s deity and shows the Father, Son, and Spirit as distinct Persons.
The Roman Empire had a sacramental religious system. Once you understand this, you will begin to understand who and what the Roman #Catholic Church is-The Institution of the Roman Empire Masquerading as a #Christian Church.
It says ‘first, Peter’ because someone has to be first in a list. The text is listing names, not assigning authority. The Greek word (prōtos) can mean: first in sequence or first in rank depending on its use. When the text means rank it uses "first of" but in Matthew 10:2 it simply lists them (order, not authority or primacy).
@Good_Guy_Palp@NeoAndTrinity_@JPuncut The Apostles established the Born-Again Church, not the Orthodox, Catholic, Baptist, etc. Man established denominations and institutions-some good, some bad.
@JoshuaTCharles That’s not the source of the Christian faith. Scripture is the source. The Saints (Those Truly Born-Again) are witnesses, not co‑equal sources of revelation.
@ThyPaddyDaddy Sola Scriptura means Scripture is the final authority for doctrine — not that Protestants deny basic historical facts. You’re attacking a definition no Protestant actually believes.
@Good_Guy_Palp@NeoAndTrinity_@JPuncut The mailman delivers a letter-but he has no authority over its content. The Catholic Church did not physically compile the Scriptures into a single Bible volume. -it simply confirmed what believers across many communities where already using.
No, ‘Scripture speaks for itself’ doesn’t mean "I'm always right." It means the text itself carries objective meaning that anyone can test by comparing Scripture with Scripture — not by appealing to a human authority. In layman terms, one passage will be explained by another passage.
@YeFutureSaint Scripture interprets Scripture because God is the Author, the Spirit is the Teacher, and the Bible itself commands believers — not a magisterium — to test all teachings by the Word. The early church did this long before Rome claimed interpretive authority
Catholics often cite a “cloud of witnesses” to justify praying to saints—but Hebrews 12:1 means they left a testimony, not that they are watching us from heaven.
Scripture says the dead “know not any thing” done under the sun. Moses and Elijah appeared in a vision, not a prayer line. Prayer to the dead is worship. Only God hears prayer.
Concerning Prayer as Part of Worship
Prayer is Sacrificial Worship
Psalm 141:2
“Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense…”
Incense in Scripture is worship offered to God (Exodus 30:7–8). David says prayer is incense — meaning prayer is worship. Therefore, directing prayer to anyone other than God is worship of that being, which Scripture forbids.
Catholics invented devotional categories like “veneration,” “hyperdulia,” and “dulia” to bypass the Bible’s clear teaching that prayer, petition, and seeking supernatural help are acts of worship. Scripture never divides worship into levels — if you direct prayer to a spiritual being, you’re treating them as God.
You're confusing terms Scripture itself uses. Let's look at Scripture, not Tradition.
The Bible says departed believers are alive with Christ (Phil 1:23) yet still calls them "the dead in Christ" (1 Thess 4:16) because they no longer have any portion in what happens "under the sun" (Eccl 9:5–6).
Alive to God, dead to this world. That's not a contradiction—it's the biblical distinction. And since prayer is worship, and God forbids contacting the dead, praying to saints is neither biblical nor permissible.