Kiwi

纯互联网牛马/产品经理
- AI / 互联网 / Web3

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@lu18989 @wwwgoubuli 为毛轮子要你们重做一遍，不是有teg和csig吗，我不理解

[DeepSeek @deepseek_ai]

🧩 DeepSeek Harness v0.1 is now available in Developer Preview!

🔹 We’re opening it up to developers building agent harnesses worldwide and open-sourcing the codebase in MIT license.
🔹 Powered by the Cordis meta-framework, DeepSeek Harness is an agent harness built around one core idea: Everything is a plugin. Models, tools, skills, sessions, sandboxes, filesystems, loops, orchestration, and UI are ALL implemented as plugins, and can be mixed, matched, replaced, and extended.

Try it now!
https://t.co/2YWSvJHhKA

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

最近x上流量密码是git的worktree？都在提什么磁盘占用多，开多agent时端口冲突什么的。
仔细想一想这类需求应该要的是云端agent coding了而不是局限于在本地，云端可以每个agent开一个sandbox把环境隔离开，同时agent filesystem也已经有很多在做的了，各位可以看看cloudflare的artifacts，pingcap开源的drive9，还有Archil和Mesa，不过普通人一般用不着自己去搞这么复杂，只需要派到云端agent就好了。比如之前我就是用codex的远程，他会自己拉仓库，coding 然后push，pr

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

好耶 这下国内模型又要大跃进咯

[Max For AI @MaxForAI]

刚刚，一篇可能会引起大模型圈地震的论文发表了！

研究人员第一次系统性地从 OpenAI、Anthropic、Google 的闭源模型里，大规模“偷”出了真正的隐藏思维链。

然后，他们顺手拿这些思维链去研究了 Kimi K3、GLM-5.2、DeepSeek 等一批开源模型。

结果非常有意思。

01｜原来闭源模型的 CoT，真的可以被“偷”出来

现在 OpenAI、Anthropic、Google 都越来越不愿意把完整思维链交给用户。

原因也很好理解：最终答案可以抄，真正值钱的是模型“怎么想”。

一旦完整 CoT 被批量拿走，就可以直接拿去做蒸馏，训练自己的模型。

所以现在很多 API 的做法，是把模型的 reasoning 加密以后返回给客户端。你看不到内容，但下一轮请求可以把这坨加密数据再交回模型，让它继续思考。

结果研究者发现了一个很离谱的漏洞：

这些加密思维链，在同一家厂商的不同用户、Session，甚至不同模型之间，居然可以互相兼容。

于是攻击方法简单得有点荒谬：

让最强模型思考 → 拿到加密 CoT → 扔给同厂更弱、更容易越狱的模型 → 让小模型把它解出来。

比如 Claude Opus 4.8 的隐藏思维链，可以交给 Haiku 去“念”出来。

你甚至不需要攻破 Opus，找它的小弟Haiku就行。

论文最终在 Claude、GPT、Gemini 三套 API 上都实现了隐藏 reasoning 的提取，等于直接绕过了厂商原本用来防止 CoT 蒸馏的那层保护。

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

Manus终于尘埃落定了吗，不过这个备份恢复很不Manus啊，不应该是：“hi Manus，帮我完成下备份恢复的操作”吗

[Manus @ManusAI]

A Note to Our Users

Manus will soon resume operating as an independent company.

As part of this transition and to comply with regulatory requirements in specific jurisdictions, some users will need to back-up their data before 7:59 a.m. on August 23, 2026 (SGT) and then begin restoration starting from 8:00 a.m on August 25, 2026 (SGT) to ensure normal usage.

More information can be found in the blog post and we’ve provided detailed guides, including to understand if you’re affected, in our Help Center

For affected users, these are the key details:

We’ll notify you by email and in the Manus app. If you signed up with an Apple ID or Facebook account, please check your in-app notifications.

Back up your data from now until August 23 (SGT) before 7:59 a.m. You can back up more than once, you can create new data after backing up, just run it again.

Starting from 8:00 a.m. on August 25 (SGT), the restoration portal will open. Restore your data and pick up right where you left off.

Affected users will not be charged during the transition, and we will be providing welcome back bonuses.

If your account is not affected, you don’t need to do anything - keep using Manus as usual. You’ll get an in-app notification confirming this.

For those affected, we know this is disruptive and we’re sorry for the inconvenience. Supporting you through it is our top priority. In addition to the full guides in the Help Center, our customer service team is ready to help 24/7 with any questions.

As we look ahead, we couldn’t be more excited by the future. We’re preparing a series of new features that will push the boundaries of what’s possible for general AI agents once again.

Thank you for being with us as we go through this process together. The best is still ahead.

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

是这样的，web2大厂引以为傲的就是多年铸造的数据孤岛，AGI之路以及Agent取代app过程中最大的绊脚石😅

[lencx @lencx_]

看到许多开源项目被国内大厂各种举报（GitHub DMCA）， 让人心生感慨：千万不要给国内产品搞生态，不值得...

Agent 需要打破数据孤岛，跨空间行动，但国内产品都在加高围栏，想尽一切办法把用户圈起来。嘴上拥抱 AI，身体却极度抵触，很是割裂...

藏着掖着才是本色，但凡能分享的都是广告...

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

最近买了一个港板iPhone Air，闲鱼上收的，卖家竟然还贴心的给我带了两张HK esim😂 另外这个air的手感太好了，现在根本不想拿17pm，想把17pm换个折叠当做国内应用到主力机，各位有什么推荐吗，目前看上了Oppo的find n6

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

之前我在的团队发布了新的Agent 团队记忆，简单试用了下感觉理念还可以，感兴趣的可以看下，特别是这个Memory Proxy设计的思想有点妙，可以无缝接入现有的Agent中

[Tencent AI @TencentAI_News]

🤯Introducing Team Memory, same idea as Agent Memory, except your teammates' agents can read it too

2.0.0 beta out today, and the repo hit #1 on github's typescript trending this week

Highlights:
> Solo builders: one place to manage memory across all your agents and AI tools, chat, code, tasks. Built for the one-person company

> Teams: a shared memory hub that turns conversations, docs and code into four reusable assets, Chat Memory, Skill, LLM-Wiki, Code-Graph, governed and shared across agents and frameworks

changelog and repo → https://t.co/BFObcln0Uk

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@simonluuuuuu @Nutllwhy 看来是真在腾讯待过的，而且这玩意估计要pony来拍板，现在注意力和资源都在云六，又有多大的毅力做这个事儿呢

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@simonluuuuuu @Nutllwhy 这才是正解，办公场景然后打不通办公im？

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@ninja1339498168 @_FORAB 你说啥都是对的，我会迁就你的

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@ninja1339498168 @_FORAB 没钱买的话努力赚点钱买个坐坐，实在不行线下去试试

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

哪个少爷又缺钱了，准备配合造几个词然后去meme里面割韭菜？就像之前词元一样😅

[小互 @xiaohu]

定调了😅

人民网：用“Token”还是“词元”，事关科技话语权

字母缩写频繁替代汉语表达。这不仅改变着大众的语言习惯，更暗藏科技话语权旁落、母语体系被消解的深层危机，守住母语根基...

语言塑造思维，长期依附外来术语、照搬西方语言逻辑，会让我们的科技认知局限于既定框架中， 难以孕育贴合中国实践的原创科技理论...

若核心概念的定义权、阐释权始终掌握在他人手中，中国特色科技话语体系便无从建立。这种认知层面的依附，比技术差距更隐蔽，也更影响我国科技自立自强的长远发展...

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

这下gemini还能有翻身之日吗 大佬都走了

[Sundar Pichai @sundarpichai]

Just shared some changes we’re making to the teams at @GoogleDeepMind.

@DemisHassabis is stepping up to become Chair of @GoogleDeepMind & Chief Scientist of Alphabet, in addition to leading @IsomorphicLabs. He’ll be able to dedicate his time and focus on shaping the future of AGI and scientific discovery. It’s work that is vitally important to Alphabet and humanity, and I can’t imagine a better person than Demis to do it. He’ll stay closely connected to Koray and the GDM teams.

@Koraykv will become the SVP, @GoogleDeepMind, responsible for all aspects of model development, GDM research, and @Geminiapp & dev teams. Koray has been at GDM for 13 years and is a world-renowned expert in the field, starting our deep learning team and driving breakthroughs like WaveNet & DQN. GDM is in great hands!

Excited for this next chapter. You can read my note along with the message Demis sent to @GoogleDeepMind here: https://t.co/mvsvrDUai7

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

说实话，跟claude聊了2h这个mesa了，我还是一头雾水到底啥场景才会用到这玩意......

[Oliver @olvrgln]

Introducing Mesa: the most powerful filesystem ever built, designed specifically for enterprise AI agents.

Every team building agents eventually hits the same wall: where do the files live?

Not the chat history, the actual artifacts the agent works on.
> The contracts your agent redlined
> The claim files it updated
> The 200-page audit report it edited overnight while you were asleep

Today those documents live in a sandbox that dies in 30 minutes, an S3 bucket where concurrent writes clobber each other, or a GitHub repo that was never built to absorb agent-scale traffic.

So we built Mesa.

The world's first POSIX-compatible filesystem with built-in version control, designed from the ground up for agents. You mount it into your sandbox like any other filesystem. Your agent reads and writes files normally. Behind the scenes every change is versioned, branchable, reviewable, and rollback-able — like a codebase, for any file type.

Mesa provides
– Branches so agents work in parallel without locking
– Durable storage that survives sandbox death
– Sparse materialization so massive document sets load instantly
– Fine-grained access control per agent
– Full history for human review and audit

Design partners are running Mesa in production across legal, healthcare, GTM, business ops, and coding agents.

Private beta is open: link in the comments

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@HotoCocoaOvO 不如路由器上架梯🤔

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

立党老师的推文和这个原作者的几个推文都看了，我用最直白、最不绕弯子、最一针见血的解读下：家里原来不缺钱，读个文科无所谓，享受世界，然后后面破产了，又骂文科赚不到钱🤡

[lidang 立党 （劝人卖房/学CS/买SP500/纳100/OpenAI/Anthrop第一人） @lidangzzz]

不要心疼任何一个读文科的人。

你自己天天吭哧吭哧写代码刷高数题的时候，这些人天天看看书、用chatgpt随手写一段小论文就完事儿了。

在美国读文科本硕到底有多爽，每天有多甜，有多少时间刷抖音看netflix和b站，每周吃几顿海底捞和麻辣香锅，周末爬几次山游几次泳逛几次街，只有他们自己知道。

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@imwsl90 看来应该是这个了

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

@igeekbb 新型文字狱？

[Kiwi @Kiwi_Sykwalker]

哈哈哈哈哈

[李老师不是你老师 @whyyoutouzhele]

“OpenAI太好用啦”

8月2日，中央广播电视总台国家应急广播推送微信地震预警新功能，其宣传图经OpenAI官方验证页面检测，显示“使用OpenAI工具生成”，并检测到SynthID水印。