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seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
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seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Thank you all for the commentary, this is what keeps it alive, ultrasound rules......
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#ccpulm
Ultrasound is safe, easy to learn, effective for the critically ill, and people should not be afraid of it
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Rebecca i could not agree more, H and P first, ultrasound second, we round in the ICU with our ultrasonic stethascope
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Do we document the lame P/E and stethascope findings.....Normal BS....Yeah you document your US findings, they are more specific
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seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Adrian the US does NOT make you a great clinician, it removes the clinical and time dissociation seen with waiting for other tests
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
what other piece of equipment allows you to do in real time an echo, thoracic exam, DVT study, FAST exam, and therapeutic procedures
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
We all need to agree that ultrasound needs to be part of the training and use in the ICU, we will debate how to implement later.
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
So far i have heard no good reasons NOT to have ultrasound, learn ultrasound and use ultrasound for each and every ICU patient
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
You can be a chihuahua if you want but i would rather be a Rottweiler
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
All ICUs should have an ultrasound, period! They are inexpesive all things considered, and helps in both diagnosis and therapeutics
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Yes we know it has to be phased in, but it has too
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Ultrasound is just an extension of the P/E, why would you not use it?
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
Ultrasound is just an extension of the physical exam, why would you not!
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
Amen Adrian, but you dont lose your skills at vents, central lines, ect, its credentialing that needs to be worked out
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#ccpulm
We need better argument than cost prohibitive for http://t.co/WuHQZSN1I8 need to be in the fellowships
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Rajesh when was the last time you verified that residents/fellows/attendings know what they are listening to with stethascope?
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Rads/Cards great at what they do, but they are NOT taking care of the patient
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Not enough data from studies in kids, our peds ICU looked at her fellows number of sticks with and without US-Better with
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Yes! you need training! Are you all afraid of new technology. We must move on to the next P/E platform, a paradigm shift
seth koenig
@KoenigSethmd
over 11 years ago
#pulmcc
Cards and rads do not do our focused exams answering a specific question, would not want them if they were available
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