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[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@rackstackerrr @davhry9 Not all otsutsukis. Hagoromo is the only hybrid otsutsuki we know, and his powers are different compared to other otsutsukis. For example he is the only otsutsuki with the purple rinnegan, the only otsutsuki able to interact with the living world without kama

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 I'm not saying that Gaara didn't get stronger at all, I am just saying that training alone isn't enough to match high tiers alone + he wasn't starting from scratch. It was almost impossible for people to reach hashirama's lvl with training alone, let alone 6p characters

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 You can't go from kage Ivl to juubidara Ivl in 15 years of training. Gaara already mastered his powers b4 timeskip. You also have to remember the fact that Gaara was a kage, so he was busy. Gaara can't reach the 6p Ivl with training. Again, amps are required to reach that Ivl

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 Didn't Gaara say that his sand was too slow to avoid attacks? Guy knew he was helped, and he had to let them help to be able to hit Madara (who wasn't Moving at that time). Also don't you think the sand cloud fits the travel speed category more than raw speed?

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 No one was on their lvl cos there were kids and regular shinobis with them. 6p characters and other broken ones were dead.

It was shown that training wasn't enough. If it was, onoki would have solo'd Madara. Kishimoto made it clear that amps were needed

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 I agree. 8 gates guy can't tank any momoshiki's attacks, but remember that guy has one of the best taijutsu training and the 8 gates that can give him an amp greater than sm + sealed juubi when it comes to striking strength and raw power

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 It was made clear that kaguya, juubi, 6p characters... were beyond shinobi lvl. Training wasn't enough anymore, amps were required. Gaara has no amps, and training wouldn't enough, unless he had 8 gates which he doesn't. Gaara's speed was nothing in front of 8 gates guy

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 Guy is a broken shinobi (one of the only character who could damage a 6p-otsutsuki lvl threat without any bijuu/senjutsu/6p related amp). His taijutsu alone gave him a juubidara+ lvl strength, + he has a lot of training. Like, if Naruto&Sasuke could deal with momo, why guy can't?

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 Guy has better taijutsu feats in Shippuden than momoshiki. Also why he can't land any. If the kages and kid Boruto could keep up with the fight and react to momoshiki, then guy would def land a hit. I agree with momoshiki being able to prevent guy transforming

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@Dewale001star Guy is so underestimated

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@Comicodigy What are they supposed to do against Thor, mjolnir and stormbreaker? They are getting obliterated

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@zigazi2002 Don't you think that recent statement refers to their fight taking place across multiple dimensions in that context?

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@willpower9000 Now imagine juubidara had this sword

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 When you say relative, do you mean power or physical strength?

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@davhry9 Sorry, but how can you say that they have better abilities than Madara when being a juubi jinchuriki has been stated to be like having hagoromo's powers. Madara has rinnegan + 6p senjutsu, so why are you saying that Naruto and Sasuke have better abilities?

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@abudardapoet If we count juubi, Kurama stands no chance. If we don't, I would say Kurama high-extreme diffs

[Korvac_ @Korvac5]

@Himawarixinojin @davhry9 I know but I didn't watch/read