@ByMonkey75@AustinLinto11 I think what happened is that male character fans became resentful around 2.3-2.4 over manato, which boiled over into being hyper critical of the female characters. That then caught on and got amplified into a clout farm/bandwagon by tourists and genshin/HSR players.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba Being sarcastic and ironic doesn't make it any less true you know that right? Anyone can read through and see you failed to follow the conversation a few times. I guess this reply means that there was indeed nothing I didn't address though, glad to know before I move on lol
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba What "half" of your response did I not address? If you keep getting lost and arguing just to argue I don't know if there's a point in continuing this either
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba You never addressed the confounding variables and simply said "well by that logic we can't use anything", and so I said yes, that's the point. Just because miyabi is the only example doesn't mean we should just accept objectively flawed reasoning and deduction.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba You never addressed the confounding variables and simply said "well by that logic we can't use anything", and so I said yes, that's the point. Just because miyabi is the only example doesn't mean we should just accept objectively flawed reasoning and deduction.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba The reason this is a problem is because there are a LOT of reasons miyabi sold well, and her being dressed hasn't been (maybe can't be) isolated. These are called confounding variables, and it makes it extremely difficult to make a reliable conclusion. Thats why it's unsupported.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba Yes exactly, miyabi is a bad character to use, I responded to that earlier and you seemingly got lost? The burden of proof is on the people making the claim, and right now that's the people attempting to use miyabi as an argument for a conclusion
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@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba Yes, that isn't far off but other factors play into it for miyabi as well, but do you understand now!? I'm saying nobody knows for sure, miyabi is a bad character to use for this in the first place, her case doesn't "prove" that "dressed characters" can sell better or worse.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba You defended an argument that was trying to make a conclusion without doing anything to address those problems, that's what my issue is so far. If you don't support that then fine we can clear this up right now and move on lol
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba The reason this is a problem is because there are a LOT of reasons miyabi sold well, and her being dressed hasn't been (maybe can't be) isolated. These are called confounding variables, and it makes it extremely difficult to make a reliable conclusion. Thats why it's unsupported.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba The disagreement is on whether or not using miyabi as proof for dressed characters selling well is a good argument, I think it's a bad one because the conclusion doesn't follow and isn't supported, you were seemingly in agreement with the argument, enough to say it wasn't bad.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba Yes, that isn't far off but other factors play into it for miyabi as well, but do you understand now!? I'm saying nobody knows for sure, miyabi is a bad character to use for this in the first place, her case doesn't "prove" that "dressed characters" can sell better or worse.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba That variable would need to be isolated and controlled for in order to safely say that dressed characters can sell well on their own merit, there's too many other things pushing miyabi towards success besides whether or not she's sexualized.
@Tyran______@AustinLinto11@Bebayyeba That's not their full argument, the actual point of even saying they can still sell well is to compare them against sexual designs and say "look it still holds up", they're trying to posit that being dressed doesn't affect sales when they cant know that. Unsupported conclusion.