Hopefully the "are we dating the same guy groups are good for guys" people see this
When a girl already sees you as a cool, hot dude
Showcasing other girls causes this exact reaction. They think that you at this point
1) see them as just another number in the harem
2) doesn't have a shot at anything meaningful long term
(I know you know this @aruvinchan , just posting this for that crowd I referenced in my first line)
@Lilly413657 Yes men are dumb with this too
Same thing with how they say they want a plain woman and yet they go for the make up club queens like crazy
Lol
Over and over again, I’ve lost count of the girls who have told me their ex was this evil narcissist
And yet that was the guy that they let put a baby in her or stayed with for several years
The stated preference ideal guy who’s this sweet golden retriever yes man servant is great for optics
But it’s not who you give lustful primal desire to
No, I’m not saying you have to be a narcissist to get Girls
In fact, you can absolutely get girls by being a loving caring person
But suggesting that all you gotta do to be the ideal guy is to prioritize the girls preference
As if you should have no concern for your preferences
Is total nonsense
@KyleGregDating@carolineccurtis "But if your absolute ideal guy with the best energy offered drinks or coffee you would fight him on it? "
The absolute ideal guy has no problem prioritising your preferences.Thinking this is a "fight" just made him wayyy less of an "ideal guy".Y assumes ur actions don't matter?
@femalenatured LOL whenever I give them my number they never say their name
That's the female cunning psychological warfare right there
They know what theyre doing haha
Haha yes I do not subscribe to that belief
It's red pill, arm chair philosopher BS
A woman doesn't just become a slave bc she's attracted nor should that at all be the expectation
With that being said...
In my experience dating ACROSS THE AVG OF THE MARKET
A woman who fights the date idea (unless there's a legit reason ofc for not wanting to do say drinks bc she doesn't drink alcohol)
Ends up being a combative pain more often than not on other stuff too
A man is supposed to lead, right? He's supposed to be the man with the plan?
One of the most common funny bios I see in my time online dating is "my worst hell is having to pick the date idea"
Again ... I know this isnt indicative of all women
And I do NOT believe in this autistic "the man should dictate everything for the woman" nonsense that the manosphere preaches
And I'm not saying that all men should only go after fully submissive fully compliant women who never help him grow or improve also...
Just saying what I've observed across the market actually dating in the field
And that is if she's fighting a completely reasonable coffee/drinks date
Where the objective should be getting to know someone
Then she often ended up being overly masculine boss babe argumentative type that doesn't let chemistry flow naturally
Dont shoot the messenger
I mean... yeah.
I had a guy I found super hot suggest we go for a walk & I was like nah, let's do an art fest. Then we got dinner.
I'm not saying I'd never do drinks or coffee but women have preferences & they don't always disappear just because a guy's attractive.
It's like men think any boundaries or preferences on her part are a sign she's not REALLY into him and I'm sorry but have you considered how incredibly toxic and limiting that worldview is?
Well that's because the dynamic is different
Men are more volatile on the whole - you have to deal with potential violence, stalking, and aggression so you understandably absolutely have to optimize for quality/safety
But for men, the worst they deal with from a woman is maybe some annoying behavior. Nothing compared to the worst that you would potentially deal with
So that's why volume works better for men versus women
There's a whole other dynamic at play that women rightfully have to be concerned with
@carolineccurtis Yeah if he insists on drinks in that scenario then that's stupid af and he would deserved to be nexted
I think it's very reasonable claim to find something both want to do
Sure... I don't think you should fight on a preference. Like she said in her followup .... just find something you both want to do.
If a guy tries to force his idea that she doesn't want to do that's ofc stupid and breaching basic social etiquette
And if he doesn't want to do it, then fine he shouldn't either
@femalenatured Exactly he should’ve just said that’s what getting together is for and if she didn’t comply then you move on
And guys take the stuff too personally. These types of girls will do this to all guys even the Chads
No reason to let it affect the ego
@Moff_AM Here we go with the classic stated preferences versus what is actually responded to
She will kick and scream and insist that’s not the case tho as they always do when one calls this discrepancy out
Plus, quite literally every single girl has vocalized that they hate reaching out first
THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED TO DO SO
It’s the ultimate square peg in round hole and galaxy brain moment by the makers
They think they’re being creative but in reality, it’s a big ole swing and a miss
And they continue to double down
One of the most common questions I get from clients and friends is
What is the best dating app?
My answer might surprise some of you ....
There is no "best"
They all truly have an even mix of cool girls and girls you want to avoid
Sure they have their reputations
Tinder is technically more hookup oriented while Hinge and Bumble are more relationship oriented
But you would actually be quite surprised at how many girls that do NOT fit those stereotypes are on those apps
Because of this my recommendation is simple
Use All of The Gold Standard Apps - Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, and Facebook Dating
This is because meeting the most women is the #1 way to having a happy dating life
Even if you're looking for something serious
When you cast the widest net you
-Don't have to put up with bad behavior
-Have a natural aura of abundance and confidence
-Maximize chances of meeting your perfect 10/10 (because who the hell wants to settle?!)
-Find a girl who has similar morals and values
-Avoid the trap of backwards rationalizing that she's the best when she actually is NOT the best
And on and on...
So don't be afraid of getting on all of them
You never know what hidden gems you might find...
If a girl has prompts, it lets you message first
To be honest, the agenda mode girls are pretty much on every app, but also the fun girls are everywhere too
I’ve met some absolute gems on bumble
I’m all for it because as you know, volume is king so casting the widest net will always yield best outcomes
Even Tider is not as agenda mode proof as at once was
Well because man/woman seduction is a completely different class than the other examples you gave IMO
Lust and love is the foundation for everything we do
It keeps the fabric of everything together
So to seek it out in the wild, even when running errands, is totally natural
Unless someone is fried from drugs or another reason, our drives are always on
Our drives for friendship/photographers/tennis buddies are not always on and not nearly as strong
With all that being said...
I do see your perspective
This is what nightlife is designed for - an avenue where you can meet people for sexual/romantic connections
So if someone thinks it should be reserved for there I think that's reasonable
But I'm also a fan of seizing the day and making the most out of life
And if there's a gorgeous girl sitting there you better believe I'm shooting my shot
Yep
It’s because women have a biologically ingrained ick radar that can work quite well in person
But with texting it completely breaks and they go haywire
Words on the screen without vocal tone, facial expressions
They find icks where there are none
It really is a nightmare if one doesn’t know what they’re doing (which is most guys)
@femalenatured And this is precisely why volume is the meta
It allows you to run into the hidden gems where they are in between relationships
So they are top caliber women but you catch them in the ever so tiny window that they are single