@ParacelsusII i think a big part of them (and other minnows) is that all these dudes do is play together on the NT like they aint producing talent like a Spain or Holland where only like 3 dudes are guaranteed a start or even a spot every tourney
@Pooin_bum21 like i dont think anyone would deny we did to you guys was the same as any colonisation campaign just that, after a certain point to many nations and their people you guys just did that shit too
@Pooin_bum21 feel thats very minimalist. ofc you were a culture and nation that was annexed and faced horrors but you were a sizable factor in what happened to many many more countries and received maybe just as much wealth and resource than that was stolen
@MarxistPikaJew@ccfc21@ZeusGrobbelaar that did happen, no one is saying it didnt, just that when it happened in africa/america/aus/india/whereever the scots and the welsh took part in that. like you are also the aggressors to many cultures
not one person is denying what happened between england and wales, but the welsh were just a participant of the empire, they took lives, nations and cultures just like the english did to theirs
@MarxistPikaJew yeah thats how it works. im sure the native populations in australia or america felt very reassured some of the people mass mudering their people were also somewhat oppressed, bet it made it all that easier to witness
@ccfc21@MarxistPikaJew@ZeusGrobbelaar like when we took aus or the us or india and took their lands, killed their people made massive wealth (like 200 years after wales was annexed) do you think the country of wales did not see any of those riches or the welsh people didnt get any foreign land
@MarxistPikaJew@ZeusGrobbelaar of course it did. sure it had negatives but when we colonised the world do you not think those riches and benefits didnt hit wales in someway
@misanthropeyrk true! they did join willingly more so the fact we tried to previously and had a history of aggression. probs should have specified there (they won both times but still)
@ZeusGrobbelaar like sure they got oppressed and had their culture bastardised and destroyed and that makes them also victims of the english but those guys were just along for the ride 200 years later
@ZeusGrobbelaar some of the shit wasnt even close (in time) to when the english did what we did to scotland and wales and they got the rewards for the colonisation too
@ParacelsusII honestly is any "Real Sociedad" player actually real? i feel like every player there has 500 apps and no one has ever sold a player to them
very cool this country still pretend the Suffragettes were just a purely peaceful group and that they wouldnt instantly brand them as worse than ISIS if they acted today
The Lady Chief Justice said proscription of Palestine Action “struck a fair balance” and that PA is not a peaceful civil disobedience group like the Suffragettes
so much criticism of Radz' tenure is fair (and i think we have to give him credit for things we did instantly improve the second he bought half the club, i dont think guys like Hernandez or Pontus sign full time without his money) but Garry Monk literally resigned to mannage boro
i dont get the point of bringing Monk into this?? the dude refused to sign on and has since done nothing of note (we also had last seasons star player refuse to play for us)
In the summer of 2021 then-manager Marcelo Bielsa told then-owner Andrea Radrizzani that the #LUFC squad needed a significant overhaul.
Radrizzani's response was to buy Jack Harrison (who had already been on loan at the club since 2018), Junior Firpo (to replace Ezgjan Alioski and Barry Douglas) and Dan James (to replace Pablo Hernandez and Helder Costa).
And when it didn't work - as it obviously wouldn't, as Bielsa had told him it wouldn't - Radrizzani sacked Marcelo.
And still - in an Italian newspaper today - instead of taking responsibility and admitting that Bielsa was right in the summer of 2021 and that he and Victor Orta were wrong - the former owner dabbles in magical thinking and found a way to call Leeds' fans sentimental.
"I regretted (sacking him) because for Leeds fans, Bielsa was worth more than a place in the Premier League" - Andrea Radrizzani
This is such an outstanding way for Radrizzani to imply that he made the correct decision - but he wishes he had made the wrong decision - because that's what the poor sentimental Leeds fans would have wanted.
Besides being almost completely inaccurate, that is not a logical way to make decisions.
(Some) Leeds fans do not hate Radrizzani because he sacked Bielsa, or because they would rather have Biela in League One than Jesse Marsch in the Premier League - the main gripes Leeds fans have with Radrizzani are:
• A general lack of competence in his oversight of the club;
• Taking credit for successes but not responsibility for failures;
• A lack of self-awareness and respect for Leeds fans when speaking in public including a track-record of unhelpful (to the club) and unprofessional tweets;
• And the times he used Leeds United & Elland Road for his own personal, selfish business endeavours.
Like when he took Leeds on a post-season tour to Myanmar in 2018, shortly after a genocide there, and his company coincidentally launched services in the country.
Or when he used Elland Road - the home of the club, the heart of Leeds' community which fans call 'church' - as a security for a bank loan to buy his next project - Sampdoria.
Hiring Bielsa was the best thing Radrizzani did at Leeds United.
Not listening to Marcelo, not backing him in the summer of 2021 - was the biggest business mistake Radrizzani has ever made and it ended up costing him hundreds of millions in lost value of the club.
Before Bielsa, Radrizzani hired Thomas Christensen and Paul Heckingbottom - two managers that combined to take Leeds from 7th in the Championship under Gary Monk the season before, to 13th. And Leeds' scatter gun transfer policy included acquisitions like Laurens De Bock and Pawel Cibicki.
After Bielsa, the competence left the building and a return to policies before Marcelo ensued. Radrizzani hired Jesse Marsch, Javi Gracia and Sam Allardyce who all combined to take Leeds from a 9th place finish in the Premier League, back to the Championship.
If Radrizzani simply took responsibility for his errors, as much as his triumphs, and didn't patronise Leeds fans - he would be respected for taking the club much further than any previous owners since Caspian.
But quotes like the one published in an Italian paper today, twist the narrative and in turn, cast more shade on his own legacy.
It is often a measure of the affect that a custodian has on a club, by the contrast between the state it was when they took over, and the state it was when they left.
Radrizzani undoubtedly pushed the club on from where it had been over the 'banter years' - buying Elland Road back, hiring Bielsa and returning the club to the Premier League.
But before and after Marcelo - Radrizzani's flaws in oversight were exposed - the managerial appointments all failed and the failure rate of transfers was extremely high.
And when Radrizzani sold the club, Leeds United was in chaos again - there was a loan exodus, players were refusing to play, Leeds had just been relegated, a lot of the squad were divided and far below the fitness levels under Bielsa, morale was through the floor; and the club needed to hire a fourth manager in less than a year.
The summer of 2023 was a perfect storm - a few more bad decisions could have kept Leeds in the wilderness for more decades.
Another poor appointment, more failed transfers - Leeds could easily have slipped down to the mid-table Championship team they had been for the five seasons before Gary Monk.
And it is solely down to the 49ers and Daniel Farke - making outstanding decisions, uniting the club, getting comparatively incredible value in the transfer market, having an excellent strategy on and off the field and shrewd revenue management - that Leeds are not just back in the Premier League where they belong, but finally expanding Elland Road and in a position to push on towards a mid-table finish and establish the club in England's top-tier again.
Sacking Bielsa wasn't the wrong thing to do because he was loved by Leeds fans.
Not realising that Bielsa was the only competent voice in the building was Radrizzani's biggest error.
And the sooner that Radrizzani can admit that, and not disrespect the intelligence of #LUFC fans, the sooner he can repair his legacy.
Because the truth is that the Italian was a major part in the story of Leeds' rise back to the big time, and he should have an overall positive legacy.
But comments like this are just not helping anyone.