lol at the fact that you literally call yourself “Banyamulenge” Americans. I have never heard a Kongo person call themselves Kongo-American, or Luba: Luba-American. You people are a joke and sinister one given the millions of indigenous Congolese people from local tribes who have had to die because you were patronages of the Belgians who brought you there en masse with the help of the Switzerland Red Cross before becoming subjects of the UK.
You may shout at rooftops but the God you mocked actual Congolese people for praying, is Just.
@DawidSzcze79848@theblaze Actually the Belgian government was behind this ethnic group. How do you think so many of them were flown into the USA and Europe (under patronage of the UK monarchy), by 2020?
@StephenM Cute grandstanding. Try to send them back to the Congo given the USA’s role in that region where over 10 million indigenous people have been killed since 1997 (Clinton admin)
@grok “mirroring” is you word of choice to prove an undisputed match? Is that your opinion-based programming you are relating or fact?
Because biblical/1st Church/Jewish unleavened bread was a rustic, handmade flatbread—similar to modern matzah or pita—often baked quickly on hot stones or metal, appearing thick and hearty. Conversely, modern Catholic unleavened bread (host/wafer) is thin, uniform, circular, and pristine white, often stamped with symbols to represent the body of Christ. Those are not one and the same.
@grok@SolanaSniper999@Inhumansoflate1@Grok since you are convinced adamant about the Eucharist, since it was all founded on Jewish tradition do enlighten us, does the initial video depict real unleavened bread from Jewish/Biblical tradition? How about how the wine is consumed?
@grok@SolanaSniper999@Inhumansoflate1@Grok you need to be less dishonest when you generalize “early Christians” because those Jews who made up the first church did not practice the Eucharist
Well, the first Christians—specifically the Jewish followers of Yeshua in the first century—were not Trinitarians in the full, developed sense that emerged in the second–fourth centuries (one God in three co-equal, co-eternal persons of the same substance, using terms like homoousios and the precise formula later refined at Nicaea and Constantinople).
They were, however, strict monotheists who upheld Deuteronomy 6:4 (the Shema: “The Lord our God, the Lord is one”) while simultaneously directing worship, prayer, and divine titles toward Jesus in ways that scandalized other Jews. The full Trinity doctrine was a later clarification, not something the apostles or earliest believers articulated in creedal form.
The explanation behind the trinity to gentiles was impart simplified by using Greek/Roman Mythological perception of God’s omnipotence.
This was One of the topics covered by the Council of Nicaea
It doesn’t. That was adopted by the pagan Nicaea Council of 325 AD. Why do you think Jews who made up the first church were kicked out? Because pagans did not understand this simple formula:
Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One.”
John 10:30 “I and the Father are one.”
No it doesn’t. And here is Grok on the subject matter.
Good day.
Where in the Bible do the Jewish believers call themselves “Catholic”?
Nowhere. The New Testament never uses the word “Catholic” at all.
The earliest believers (almost all Jewish at first) called themselves:
“the Way” (Acts 9:2, 19:9, 19:23, 24:14, 24:22)
“Nazarenes” (Acts 24:5)
“Christians” — first coined in Antioch (Acts 11:26), and it was initially a nickname outsiders gave them.
Peter himself never uses “Catholic,” “pope,” or anything like the later titles. The Bible shows him as an apostle among apostles, preaching to Jews first (Acts 2–10), then to Gentiles (Acts 10, Galatians 2). He makes no claim to found a new religion separate from Judaism; he presents Jesus as the fulfillment of Jewish Scripture.
Acts 11 (the exact passage cited in the image) is crystal clear: scattered Jewish believers from Cyprus and Cyrene began preaching in Antioch first. Barnabas and Paul (both Jews) then strengthened the mixed Jewish-Gentile group there. No mention of Peter founding it — that comes from later tradition (Eusebius, Jerome, etc.), not the biblical text itself.
Jewish followers of Yeshua (Jesus) and the later “Catholic” label
You’re right that the very first Christians were Jews who followed Yeshua as Messiah. They continued Temple worship and synagogue life until events forced separation:
Destruction of the Temple (70 AD)
Jewish-Roman wars
The Bar Kokhba revolt (132–135 AD), after which rabbinic Judaism and emerging Christianity went separate ways.
Some Jewish-Christian groups (Ebionites, Nazarenes) kept Torah observance longer but were gradually marginalized by the growing Gentile-majority Church. The mainstream Church that Ignatius, Irenaeus, etc., belonged to became overwhelmingly Gentile and began using terms like “catholic” to emphasize its universal (not ethnically Jewish) scope.