@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine The issue is that I’m too smart for you, so you don’t understand. Ok, more Allies than Axis died, than, just like you wanted the Axis won WW2, so what are you complaining? Or maybe, like I was saying, life isn’t a video game?
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine If Germany they would killed most non-Germanic Europeans. Why should I care about Nazi Germany winning, given we would have been killed or subjugated by them anyways?
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine Well, with all the shit takes you have on history, unsurprisingly you have this too. No, Germany (who funded the Bolsheviks during WW1 btw) was simply fighting for Lebensarum and nothing else, completely fucking Europe in the process.
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine Lol, if you are so proud of dying of the Germans be my guest, dying for others isn’t exactly the attitude of a supposedly great people btw. Also the Germans didn’t save anyone in North Africa, they lost too, if anything Italians allowed Rommel to escape.
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine ? The Blue Division lost, Barbarossa failed, and being cannon fodder for Germany isn’t much to brag about, if anything the countries thar fought for Germany, Italy included, should see it as a bad thing.
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine More Italian than Spanish soldiers fought at Lepanto and Sicily and the rest of Southern Italy entered a personal union with Aragon on their own choice, they weren’t “conquered”.
@bvllemajvlius@mrbronlow@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine Besides the Byzantines, even the Hellenistic States before. Greece was the first European country to expand Europe outside its borders, even conquering major powers like Persia.
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine You talked about “discovering” Columbus and Cabot led the Spanish/English to do those. Also I just don’t think that conquering and ruling the Indios (obviously a Spanish accomplishment) has been a huge plus for Europe, especially given the end results.
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine Columbus being Italian is not irrelevant, he singlehandedly started that, even for either countries an Italian, Cabot, led the start of the explorations of the British Empire in America, Italians can also claim that.
@mrbronlow@bvllemajvlius@Carlos45463587@ItaloByzantine Obviously South America sucks because of the Panchos, but if that is end point of the Spanish Empire, again, how does that make the Spanish Empire as relevant to Europe?