@BigJohn043 Agree value creation is hard. In my experience, I’m only underwriting value creation (outside of market growth) if management owns 30%+ of cap table. Otherwise you have to buy right and get the industry right.
@RobertMSterling@BoringBiz_ I mean….. he blamed the original management for bad practices and then the new management for lack of innovation. Hop off guys
@coxcapitalptnrs@JohnCoxCap BofA has a nice piece showing a three quarter lag between flows and NII impact. Q4 2026 will get interesting.
Even though we’re at the “suddenly” phase, I still feel like I’m watching a car crash in slow motion.
The cheaper version of the Bain CDD report is expert networks. Cheaper still, cold LinkedIn outreach. People respond and love to talk.
All get you to the same answer. One costs $1.5MM, the other is free.
@ChairliftCap Biggest scam of private equity. By the time you’re senior enough to make investment decisions, then by the time they’re realized 5-7 years later, everyone is retired, dead or moved on
@origoinvest@JonathanWeil@WSJ@WSJheard It’s still adding leverage at the BDC level and off balance sheet. Plus if I buy a levered asset in that off balance sheet JV (e.g. ABF equity), I’ve now levered my BDC equity three ways. The leverage multiples
BDC SUNs are hard risk to price. SUN residual collateral is awful after all the performing loans get pledged away. Things get really bad you’ll be primed endlessly. Docs are terrible + information asymmetry vs the banks.
I’d rather buy SRTs from banks and call options on equity. SUNs sit in bad place. ~120bps wide of BB is false precision.
@WSJ Some of the ABF investments have meaningful asset-level leverage. Levered fund, levered off-balance sheet, levered assets. I’m sure it’s all fine.
Viral scandals are the best days on Wall Street. You get like 2-3 a year. They must be cherished.
Like a twisted Thanksgiving, they pull together old IB colleagues and turn stoic old-heads giggly
@prashantrad I also think inflows masked the structural problems. Private credit hasn't faced a fundraising slowdown before and the faucet is going dry...
@junkbondinvest Negative selection bias of deals that get refi'd/bailed out vs. the names that linger will be fascinating watch. $OWL BDCs will become a graveyard of shitcos.