I would categorize it under “wise as serpents, innocent as doves”. Putting yourself in situations you can be preyed upon and preying upon others is both sinful.
I actually interviewed with one of the major sports betting platforms and they update the odds before a play happens on live TV.
You would have to really distinguish certain cases. Like let’s say you and your buddies are going hunting and you each throw in $100 that goes to whoever bags the most elk. Is that gambling? Kind of, morally wrong? Not intrinsically, unless one of your buddies has a crack level addiction and you just relapsed him into betting for the thrill or something. You see how it can get messy to define real structure or theological parameters
It’s a bit tricky, gambling is one of those matters of discernment I think because the line is fairly ambiguous to some extent. I think avoiding a lengthy code for it is probably the better decision and congruent with Christian tradition.
It’s difficult to make a scriptural argument that betting on a single game is necessarily sinful, but it’s highly addictive and leads you to poor decision making, etc. Far better advice to just say to avoid it entirely. But in a real sense it’s different from say alcohol consumption where the lines are clearer (except for cooking with it).
It’s a complex one and why you don’t often hear it called intrinsically sinful but “morally wrong”. For it to become sinful is very circumstantial
That’s a fair point, the culture is downstream of leadership quality (infer from that what you will). But gambling is one of humanity’s oldest vices. I’m kinda thinking this one is on the laity being swept up into a degenerate society. Constant reminders on gambling shouldn’t be necessary, and yet…
Buying stocks is like gambling like starting a business is gambling, or like having children is gambling. Everything has a chance to go right or wrong.
The uncertainty of the outcome isn’t the dividing line
@SaltSermon Agreed, gambling is the perfect example since it’s been considered a vice to be avoided since the founding and for almost 2000 years in the western church and yet predictably you get a deluge of “oh wow” and “but what about le stocks???”
When a Mormon prophet dies, he seems to take every one of his GC talks with him to the grave. At least, in the mind of the mormie.
The latest gambling discourse is just the latest example of why so much emphasis on the living leadership is toxic
This Conference was overall quite good. Though that persistent talk of:
“I saw my kid doing something which inexplicably infuriated me now watch as I stretch and contort it into something about Jesus and ignore my slip about me having uncontrollable rage”
It’s not just blasphemous but encourages the cultural rot
This Conference was overall quite good. Though that persistent talk of:
“I saw my kid doing something which inexplicably infuriated me now watch as I stretch and contort it into something about Jesus and ignore my slip about me having uncontrollable rage”
It’s not just blasphemous but encourages the cultural rot
@surskitmaxxing@sister_slay We are saved by grace alone, but works flow from good faith. This is the biblical position and I have a hard time understanding why other Mormons don’t get this
"Sports betting is especially rampant. It easily becomes consuming, often compulsive. It robs time from studies, relationships, and career development. It crowds out things of value and in their place fosters greed."
@ChristoffDTodd#GeneralConference
I wouldn’t call it a natural shift either but very deliberate. 2018 - 2022 the professional leagues of all the major sports were trying to lean heavy into social issues to try and appeal to a new hip audience. This backfired really hard and didn’t improve viewership so they leaned on regulators to relax betting restrictions
@plasmarob During Covid everybody got into politics and social justice, etc. People got burnt out from all that and became “Fan duel Americans”. It’s extremely big right now
Many Saints are leaving Utah and creating small wards in other places in the U.S., none of them say they regret this and I believe them.
That said, this practice isn’t right. You should remain with your roots and your family. I will stay