@CaptLuvsMer@HoopMuse@pitlessball Well funny thing is he didn’t play with all star shaq. He was an all star then went to Cleveland, massively regressed and was no longer an all star
@LegendOfWinning I feel like yall aren’t taking into account how raw he is offensively. He struggles against strong physical bigs that can move which is exactly what kat and Mitch are. Great player but yall aren’t taking into crowning him too early for my liking.
@Jacobtheclipper You do realize he got better after? So if I really value peak and I think he was a substantial more refined offensive player from 16’-18’ he could be my goat right?
@OfficialDomNBA I never said those 2 are easy top 5 I just think those guys are clearly better at basketball relative to their era. Him over Shaq reaaally throws me off. At their peak Shaq is clearly better if both sides of the ball. Like really clear.
@Clemson_Addict@OfficialDomNBA I actually think you can argue him over magic and Duncan if you really value longevity but the problem is even if you really value longevity there’s no argument for him to be over Russel or Shaq so still
@n9rzfan@OfficialDomNBA he is NOT Mike. He was probably slightly more skilled but that doesn’t make up for the seismic gap in athleticism, defense, scoring and scoring efficiency. Kobe is more skilled offensively but that doesn’t mean is even close to as effective respectfully.
@Jacobtheclipper@GodofBlunder247@DaeKnowSumn Ben Wallace was getting post touch’s in the 2000s😭😭don’t talk to me abt dumbed down generation. Basketball is a lot more complex than it used to be and teams are sooooo much smarter
@sagesteele Well sage the difference is that trump is worse than any Democrat in the country. I think that would make a big difference right? I don’t see any Democrats defrauding taxpayers to the tune of 2 billions dollars (sorry i mean 1.776 billion my bad so epic and funny🥴)
@Marcus43265385@JuliusC23680344@Way2PC3@unibroward4405 Mike was an elite defender at his peak but Kobe is a different story. Young Kobe was an elite defender but at is peak from 06-08 he really wasn’t guarding like that and the 12 all nba defense selections is just ridiculous tbh. Kobe is an extremely overrated defender ngl
@TheLifeOfp24_ There genuinely is no coherent basketball argument that could get you to believe that Kobe’s better than Jordan bron or Kareem so no he absolutely isn’t top 3 and it’s actually egregious to say as much.
@nuggetsfan9717@Carsobi Put the calculators down and watch the games. That man wasn’t better than shai luka or wemby. I love Jokic and he’s an unreal offensive player but his defense is genuinely a problem and it’s been getting worse. He’s worse of a defender than what people think Luka is.
@ApexJonesHACKED No one says that they literally guarded him with 5 guys. It just means that they sent very aggressive help toward bron when he had the ball. I thought it pretty obvious what people are trying to convey idk what you’re even tryna get at with this tbh
@WhozMEECH@LegendOfWinning@getnickwright If you wanna say Kobe is better in 09 or 10 okay that’s a fine take but by the time we get to 11 if you had anyone other than bron as bitw your fucking crazy. One bad series doesn’t take away from the fact that bron literally played better than Kobe in that same playoffs