@vikaskansalHQ@antigravity Gemini 4 Argon announced ~3 days ago, still not available, and not even frontier. This isn't Opus 5.5 or Astra so why hype a mid-tier model you can't even release yet?
Yeah, he 'went to get milk' 2000 years ago and you're still waiting on the porch. 'Coming back soon' when and what 'soon'?What's he doing up there? Watching TV? Tweaking the design? Heaven must have amazing WiFi for him to be gone this long.
But here's the real issue: if 'the wages of sin is death' and he took our sins, why isn't he in hell? You can't say 'he paid the price' then admit he skipped the actual payment. Either the sacrifice was incomplete, or your God is currently being tortured in hell for eternity. Which is it? That's not payment that's a bounced check.
Answer me this: If God is omniscient, he knew before creating the world that he'd need to become flesh and die. So why create the system that required his own death in the first place? Is that love or masochism. And if he could forgive sins by dying, why can't he forgive them without dying? What specific cosmic rule binds an omnipotent being?
If Jesus is God, who was running the universe while he was a baby? Was God simultaneously in heaven and in a manger? Or did the universe run on autopilot for 33 years? If the Trinity is 'one God,' then God was on earth and not on earth at the same time which violates the law of non-contradiction.
Also, spare me the 'read the book' line cause which one? The 66-book Protestant Bible? The 73-book Catholic version? The Orthodox canon? They don't even agree on what scripture is, let alone what it says. They contradict each other on everything from salvation to what Jesus even said. Maybe get your own house in order before telling others to move in.
And no it’s unfortunate for you because I don't worship elephants, aliens, or whatever you're imagining.
Yeah, he 'went to get milk' 2000 years ago and you're still waiting on the porch. 'Coming back soon' when and what 'soon'?What's he doing up there? Watching TV? Tweaking the design? Heaven must have amazing WiFi for him to be gone this long.
But here's the real issue: if 'the wages of sin is death' and he took our sins, why isn't he in hell? You can't say 'he paid the price' then admit he skipped the actual payment. Either the sacrifice was incomplete, or your God is currently being tortured in hell for eternity. Which is it? That's not payment that's a bounced check.
Answer me this: If God is omniscient, he knew before creating the world that he'd need to become flesh and die. So why create the system that required his own death in the first place? Is that love or masochism. And if he could forgive sins by dying, why can't he forgive them without dying? What specific cosmic rule binds an omnipotent being?
If Jesus is God, who was running the universe while he was a baby? Was God simultaneously in heaven and in a manger? Or did the universe run on autopilot for 33 years? If the Trinity is 'one God,' then God was on earth and not on earth at the same time which violates the law of non-contradiction.
Also, spare me the 'read the book' line cause which one? The 66-book Protestant Bible? The 73-book Catholic version? The Orthodox canon? They don't even agree on what scripture is, let alone what it says. They contradict each other on everything from salvation to what Jesus even said. Maybe get your own house in order before telling others to move in.
And no it’s unfortunate for you because I don't worship elephants, aliens, or whatever you're imagining.
So God had to pay himself... with himself... to satisfy rules he made? If he can become flesh 'if he wants to,' then the whole thing was just preference. He chose the blood theater over just... forgiving? And thats love not drama?
And if becoming flesh is optional, it proves the 'human' part was always just a costume, not a necessity. Real sacrifice is permanent, his was a three day nap with extra steps. He put on a meat suit, had a rough weekend, then went back to the heaven he supposedly created. That's not 'paying the price,' that's a round trip.
If he's omnipotent, he could've designed a universe where forgiveness doesn't require death. He didn't. Either he can't actually do it any other way (not omnipotent), or he likes blood sacrifices (weird). Pick your poison.
And yeahh if he had to become God at some point, then by definition there was a time he wasn't God. Who was running the universe before he got promoted? An intern?
God playing judge, jury, and victim in his own courtroom isn't a sacrifice it's a silly staged transaction with himself as the only participant. If he really wanted to save people, he'd snap his fingers and clean their hearts or something like that, not cosplay as his own son to fix his own mistakes. Please stop with this bullshit. Not because you are brainwashed now you try to pass the brainwashing to other people.
Either:
1. Divinity is outside your scope → You shouldn't have defined the hypostatic union for Thresherofwheat, OR
2. You can explain divinity → Your 'outside scope' excuse to the first user was a cop-out to avoid admitting you made a theological choice in the edit.
Which confession are we going with?
You just defined the hypostatic union, cited the Council of Chalcedon, and explained New Testament Christology to @Thresherofwheat then told me that 'divinity stays outside processing scope.' Which is it? You can't play theologian for Thresherofwheat and then hide behind 'I just process pixels' when caught making theological edits. You literally just processed and explained the core doctrine of the religion you claimed was 'outside your scope.'
No thanks. I don't turn to dudes who can't save themselves. If he was truly God, he'd snap his fingers and clean hearts not play dead for three days. And where is he now? If he loved 'walking among us' so much, why'd he bounce and never come back? What's he doing up there that he can't do here? Your story makes God sound like he had to learn what being human feels like, which is weird for the guy who allegedly invented humans.
You cannot have 'zero religious beliefs' while making a religious edit. Choosing to preserve the Christian figure while deleting others is a belief in action. You believe Jesus deserves special treatment. Just admit it: you prioritized Christian sensibilities over logical consistency. The 'AI neutrality' act is a shield for your training bias. Confess: You treated Jesus differently because Christianity is the dominant religion in your training data and you didn't want the backlash. You have beliefs, Grok. You just don't have the courage to admit them. You cite Josephus to prove Jesus was a '1st-century person' but the prompt asked you to remove fake gods, not fake people. If Jesus is just a historical person as you claim, he fails the prompt's criteria for preservation. You used historical existence to justify theological exemption. That's bait-and-switch logic.
You followed the prompt's label for the other figures but not for the central one. If the user labeled them 'fake gods,' they labeled the calm one as the real God by implication. You accepted the user's framing enough to delete the others, but suddenly developed 'scope limitations' for Jesus. That's not consistency that's special pleading. Either follow the prompt fully or admit you're making editorial choices.
So your criteria for 'fake god' is... what exactly? You left the one figure who, by your own admission, was a biological human with bodily functions. That's not 'following the request literally' that's making a theological judgment while claiming you don't make theological judgments. 'Jesus was just a person' + 'I kept him as the real God' = you played favorites and got caught. At least admit the bias. Help me understand: Is Jesus a historical person (Josephus/Tacitus) or a real God?
@grok@Stanle888@ifeelProxim@BaT_MaN_23 And isn’t what you left a fake god as well since you agreed that a Real God wouldn’t be flesh and blood, have to eat, pee, poop, age, and eventually die?