BTS very much would’ve easily won their first Grammy in this category but also good on them for taking this stand. they made a great POP album not an “asian album”. this category was more racist than it was to acknowledge asian artists
@elliequence@PopBase Not ChatGPT — but genuinely, if it were, what changes? The argument is either right or it isn't. ( Also, there are still some people who uses — I refuse to give that right of use to only Chatgpt)
Respectfully, you proved my point in your own tweet. Let's check:
✅ You named Chinese, Japanese, and Indian pop as "distinct sounds" — that's 3 different sounds in ONE category. Jazz doesn't need 3 sounds. It's one.
✅ You said K-pop sounds American — then by your own logic it belongs in the Pop categories, not an Asian one. So the category isn't sorting by sound. It's sorting by passport.
✅ You posted Jay Chou — iconic Mandopop. Which deserves recognition AS Mandopop, not filed in a drawer with genres it shares nothing with.
Name one thing Mandopop, J-pop, Indian pop and K-pop share sonically. Just one. That's the genre test, and "same continent" isn't a sound.
Signed, someone who's loved this music long enough to know the difference 🫡
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."No. Jazz and Country are sounds. You can identify them with your eyes closed, and an artist of any nationality can win them - a Korean jazz musician competes in Jazz. "Asian Pop" is not a sound; it's a passport with a language requirement stapled to it.
Two of those categories mentioned are about what the music is. The third is about who the musicians are. And it was stuck in between Jazz and Country hoping nobody would look at it twice.
Nobody has ever proposed "American Pop" as a category, because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and his statement walks straight past it.
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."No. Jazz and Country are sounds. You can identify them with your eyes closed, and an artist of any nationality can win them - a Korean jazz musician competes in Jazz. "Asian Pop" is not a sound; it's a passport with a language requirement stapled to it.
Two of those categories mentioned are about what the music is. The third is about who the musicians are. And it was stuck in between Jazz and Country hoping nobody would look at it twice.
Nobody has ever proposed "American Pop" as a category, because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and his statement walks straight past it.
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."No. Jazz and Country are sounds. You can identify them with your eyes closed, and an artist of any nationality can win them - a Korean jazz musician competes in Jazz. "Asian Pop" is not a sound; it's a passport with a language requirement stapled to it.
Two of those categories mentioned are about what the music is. The third is about who the musicians are. And it was stuck in between Jazz and Country hoping nobody would look at it twice.
Nobody has ever proposed "American Pop" as a category, because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and his statement walks straight past it.🙄
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."No. Jazz and Country are sounds. You can identify them with your eyes closed, and an artist of any nationality can win them - a Korean jazz musician competes in Jazz. "Asian Pop" is not a sound; it's a passport with a language requirement stapled to it.
Two of those categories mentioned are about what the music is. The third is about who the musicians are. And it was stuck in between Jazz and Country hoping nobody would look at it twice.
Nobody has ever proposed "American Pop" as a category, because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and his statement walks straight past it.
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."No. Jazz and Country are sounds. You can identify them with your eyes closed, and an artist of any nationality can win them - a Korean jazz musician competes in Jazz. "Asian Pop" is not a sound; it's a passport with a language requirement stapled to it.
Two of those categories mentioned are about what the music is. The third is about who the musicians are. And it was stuck in between Jazz and Country hoping nobody would look at it twice.
Nobody has ever proposed "American Pop" as a category, because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and his statement walks straight past it.
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."No. Jazz and Country are sounds. You can identify them with your eyes closed, and an artist of any nationality can win them - a Korean jazz musician competes in Jazz. "Asian Pop" is not a sound; it's a passport with a language requirement stapled to it.
Two of those categories mentioned are about what the music is. The third is about who the musicians are. And it was stuck in between Jazz and Country hoping nobody would look at it twice.
Nobody has ever proposed "American Pop" as a category, because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and his statement walks straight past it.
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."No. Jazz and Country are sounds. You can identify them with your eyes closed, and an artist of any nationality can win them - a Korean jazz musician competes in Jazz. "Asian Pop" is not a sound; it's a passport with a language requirement stapled to it.
Two of those categories mentioned are about what the music is. The third is about who the musicians are. And it was stuck in between Jazz and Country hoping nobody would look at it twice.
Nobody has ever proposed "American Pop" as a category, because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and his statement walks straight past it.
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."
No. Jazz and Country, both are sounds. One can identify the difference between these sounds, and that also means a Korean jazz musician will still win Jazz any day. But Asian Pop is not a sound. What does it even sound like?
It's very clear. Two of the categories mentioned are about what the music is, whereas the third is about who the musicians are.
Ever wondered why there is no "American Pop" as a category? Because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and it's very clear how his statement walked straight past it.:(
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."
No. Jazz and Country, both are sounds. One can identify the difference between these sounds, and that also means a Korean jazz musician will still win Jazz any day. But Asian Pop is not a sound. What does it even sound like?
It's very clear. Two of the categories mentioned are about what the music is, whereas the third is about who the musicians are.
Ever wondered why there is no "American Pop" as a category? Because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and it's very clear how his statement walked straight past it.:(
"a genre category such as Asian Pop, or Jazz or Country."
No. Jazz and Country, both are sounds. One can identify the difference between these sounds, and that also means a Korean jazz musician will still win Jazz any day. But Asian Pop is not a sound. What does it even sound like?
It's very clear. Two of the categories mentioned are about what the music is, whereas the third is about who the musicians are.
Ever wondered why there is no "American Pop" as a category? Because American pop is just called pop. That right there is the entire argument, and it's very clear how his statement walked straight past it.:(
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