@chkrosp That's an interest take on the case. The way I see it, if a Christian Scientist (the guys who don't believe in medicine) said they would refuse any medicinal care, like prescriptions, should employees be able to challenge that?
@chkrosp There is a secular court system that ruled that it would be an infringement on the owners' religious rights to provide a service that conflicted with their beliefs and practice.
How is that not the ideal outcome?
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@chkrosp Depends; if we're talking about genome mapping/designer genes? Kinda a moral grey area.
But violently exterminating people sounds pretty much like harm to me. Falls under the same dominance category, albeit fur different reasons.
@chkrosp And I'm aware this society will never exist, even though it would not be hard to do.
Hence why I'm focused on the conceptual harm. What dims their faith or injures their belief? They already live next to or amongst those with different worldviews.
@chkrosp I would agree, if it's a winner take all situation. But letting secular people and religious people live their lives in accordance with their own beliefs doesn't require coercion. It's just asking people to do what they're already doing, mostly.
@chkrosp As proselytizing goes, I don't know of any cases where talking about religion at work is banned. So, if there's a case against it, I'd need to see that and if it indeed exists, I would disagree with it. But I do not see the 1A being violated in favor of secularism.
@chkrosp What I find odd about this argument is that I feel this doesn't happen to an alarming degree. There's the bakers from the gay wedding cake case, Hobby Lobby denying birth control, protesting abortion clinics--all in favor of their religious beliefs.
@chkrosp That's why I'm for cooperative coexistence. Let the ideas compete. And if an idea can't take hold--as long as it's not forcibly suppressed--then, oh well. There's plenty of metaphysical ideas I value that have no purchase in today's world. Them's the breaks. (6/6)
@chkrosp 2. If it is morally acceptable to dominate your neighbors to force them to follow your beliefs, then it can't be said to be immoral or wrong if it is done to you. So why, then, would it be wrong for a secular society to limit practice or vice versa? (5/x)