@CharlesdeBaulin@charlescwcooke That's the whole subject of politics. That's not something to be answered in a tweet. It's unreasonable to expect an answer to that question as a precondition of beginning a discussion.
@RichWWilliams@johnddavidson That's pretty easy to prove.
In the movie "Logan's Run" society achieved equality of life span by killing e everyone who turned 30. In general, the easiest way to increase equality is to lop off the right end of the distribution. That's not good.
@brodgers01@johnddavidson It's just not the case that government planning, regulations, and bureaucracy always increase the common good. Take a look at the history of the Twentieth-century.
@ErinOHenry@johnddavidson The question "Who decides what's the common good?" Is structurally similar to "Who decides what 2+2 equals?". Noone decides. It's an objective fact.
@ErinOHenry@charlescwcooke Some people believe in a system called "democracy" in which everyone gets a say in what policies to enact in the pursuit of the common good. That way, you don't have to just trust others.
@charlescwcooke It's not that hard. The common good includes:
Low crime
Public health
Affordable goods and services
Low rates of accidental injuries
Ease of family formation
Long life expectancy
Meaningful work
Rich sense of community
And especially liberty.
@kvallier@yhazony In the tweet below Goldberg says "defining the common good is a hard but not impossible task at a high level abstraction and basically an impossible task at the ground level" Saying it's basically impossible to know the common good is skepticism.
https://t.co/zQB1XYX7y3
My problem, well my chief problem, with the common good talk on the New Right is that it is shot through with question-begging. They assume that once you know what the common good is this awareness grants the constitutional authority, the policy skill, the economic and personnel resources and the political mandate to impose it. The knowledge problem just evaporates once they get the gnostic insight into what the common good is. (By the way,
I think defining the common good is a hard but not impossible task at a high level abstraction and basically an impossible task at the ground level).
A vast amount of common good talk strikes me more as an attempt to seize more and more power for a right wing faction that has utterly lost any intellectual humility and policy skepticism. That’s why most of the common good talk is simply the right wing version of the left’s “social justice” rhetoric. “How dare anyone oppose the common good/social justice!?”
Essential piece by @EliLake. Most accurate take I’ve seen yet on the progressive socialist shift within Metro-Detroit’s (Dearborn) scene.
Nobody in the Dem party has the spine or capital to punch left, and a Sista Souljah is laughable.
https://t.co/XL4sThLuKE
@pmags30@ConceptualJames@DefiyantlyFree The text you attribute to Federalist 45 using quote marks ("to stop people from forcing their version of common good on us") does not appear in the document, not does any argument to the effect that the common good is the aggregate of individual liberty.
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@pmags30@ConceptualJames@DefiyantlyFree Walker does not conflate liberties with choices -- at least not in the tweets in this chain. He mentioned choices, not liberties. Your charge of dishonesty is not justified by the evidence you present.
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@ConceptualJames Tyrants also clothe themselves in handsome talk about freedom, rights, truth, liberty, or justice -- whatever the current thing is. 'The common good' isn't unique or special in that respect, and it shouldn't raise any more (or any less) suspicion than any of those other claims.
@DSterling1948@ConceptualJames@CodyLibolt That's incredible unfair. Everyone who advocates for any policy in good faith is aiming at some common good.
Advocating for policy X always implies that opponents of policy X are mistaken. This isn't something confined to only those on the political right.
@DrRussellBrown@DSterling1948@ConceptualJames@CodyLibolt This is straight-up nihilism. The good is an objective reality. Asking who defines it is like asking who defines water as H2O or 2+2 as 4. By reducing the quest for the good to a mere power struggle, you implicitly justify a might-makes-right attitude towards power.