If abortion is illegal because “sex has natural consequences,” then liver transplants for alcoholics and lung transplants for smokers should be illegal too because consequences, darling, are so consistent.
@BumpstockBarbie They believe that if they can find a religious premise in your argument, then they can dismiss it as subjective rather than objective.
But even if a premise is religious, it doesn't matter as the argument against abortion is normative regardless of religious or not.
@iamAtheistGirl I don’t care what the reason for owning a slave is because it’s literally none of my business and i’m not going to pretend a slave has value to someone who wants to own it.
- your logic, right now.
@AleMartnezR1 Right. The object we imagine will always be imperfect compared to the object in reality, e.g., we can only subjectively know the phenomena of an object, but not it's noumena.
I once read that we have no direct access to mind independent objects. We can only imagine them.
@Pathfinder4545@RanaAurora@_celia_bedelia_ Right. She affirmed Ops premise that there is a difference between a born and unborn human.
But that only refers to where they are, not what they are. They are both human beings.
@RanaAurora@Pathfinder4545@_celia_bedelia_ I refer you to the premise of the thread; that, there is a difference between a born and unborn human.
As I pointed out, the difference is in whereness, not whatness. Both are human beings regardless of where they are.
@JCinthehousett@LizzieMarbach Again, you (a finite being), are judging the morality of God (an infinite being).
You cannot comprehend the thoughts of God, you cannot comprehend the morality of God as it's above what you can conceptualise.
@1787VoiceOR@DrFrankTurek Speak the truth pleasantly, do not speak pleasant untruths.
Speaking the truth is more important than the consequence of speaking the truth.
If the truth makes someone suicidal, then that's their problem, rather than the truth being the problem.
@eldritchharpy@_celia_bedelia_ Again, that refers to whereness, not whatness. The whatness is human being regardless of where it is.
It seems like you don't understand how it actually got there.
@johnholler1787@abbythelibb_ A child is a young prepubescent human being, which a human prenate is.
Born simply refers to a change in whereness, but not whatness. The whatness does not change simply because it's location changes.