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@sappy_satanica @Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 In the lower dimensional plane he exists then, either its not higher dimensional or the slash changed ontological and dimensional value, if thats the case then by your words the "hyper dimensional slash" isnt even mountain level because it has no dc to actually scale.

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@sappy_satanica @Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 1)kicking portals scales nowhere and android 18 caught a dimension with her hands and throuhht casually not even goku.
2)non canon feat, and please define what 'hyper dimensional' means
3)the slash supposedly is higher dimensional and yet saitama catches it-

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@sappy_satanica @Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Secondly,no the growth was only activated once and it was due to an emotion he never expierenced before so it would be tied to the emotion unless you can give another way with evidence for it

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@sappy_satanica @Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Incorrect,due to goku's cosmology base goku on his own has multiple infinites above saitama let alone mui saitama is stuck at 3d feats while goku in base is in the 5d levels of power due to cosmos, mui is 6d(i am lowballing goku to not humiliate saitama).

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@sappy_satanica @Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Nope, he is bound by existence, movement,dimensionality,thought,the laws of logic,being fallible and so on.

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 3)if whis' cosmology is bigger and better which it is then regardless whis' ability no matter the level of quantity god has he would still be outclassed fue qualitative superior power over a qualitative superior cosmology, quality > quantity

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Nope,1)you imply there are no limits for god's techniques which as a whole it is logically impossible for any fictional charachter to have no limits
2)whis' limits are set limits of self preservation not actual capability

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 1)limitations exist in all fiction
2)the limitation is a self preserved one not a capability one
3)temporal freedom over a layers of infinity worse than db
4)no you are being fallacious,non responsive, and clearly dodging

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Holy non track of doom, anyways saitama's technique is impossible to be more powerful since db's cosmology is more impressive than it, he can have freedom but as you clearly ignored its because whis doesnt want to make another paralled world not a capability issue.

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Nop, you used a false equivilancy fallacy, goku and garou's situatuin is completelty different. One is actively and directly stated to be sleeping while the other got knocked out allowing his nature and instinct to kick in, no sleeping involved. This is really bad for you.

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 1)not all excuses are bad or good its an argument address it or dont reply
2)biological accuracy
3)this a false equivalncy false goku wasnt sleeping he got knocked out and then went mui while garou is directly stated to be sleeping,stop abusing fallacious reasoning

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 It isnt my fault you are trying to ignore biology and saying sleep walking is autonomy

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 1)you did commit fallacies and only one dishones here is you
2)not all what ui is and i gave an argument but you have yet to address it and i wont repeat it
3)no, sleep walking is still reliant on brain and impulse function not instince,nature or autonomy

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Yeag instince doesnt go off of thought it goes of off the bodies nature and autonomy, what garou did was sleep fighting,master roshi actually had the principles taught by korin who was taught by kami, garou doesnt and it wasnt a speed amp to roshi, jiren wasnt going all out......

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Again, via statements he was fighting in his sleep so muscle memory which means he was also dreaming so not actually autonomous,saying its nonsense and not actually attacking the argument is circular reasoning
You do need god ki not mastery,he doesnt have ui via adaption non seq

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@adonattog18 No he hasnt, no moment shows him in a vacuum for more than seconds disregarding the speed of light speed he is going at

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 And a strawmann at worst, so 2 fallacies. Whis' potency and cosmology are far higher than opms to just compare it to saitama's regular old time travel.

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Thats a strawmann fallacy, all i did was debunk garou having any autonomous movements by his desctipition og sleep walking you just repeated your eralier propistion without actually addressing the point, which is also circular reasoning
So please address the point or dont reply

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@Alfaria5 @infamou21846226 Garou doesnt have a body that moves on its own, again he is sleep walking and acting with muscle memory, sleep sends signals to the brain to release hormons and to dream these disprove him being autonoums,and nope he needs god ki and intense training, he cant and will never do it