@burntbones27001 I think Gru wins either way. Might have poor memory but if both have all their equipment, Minions are what carries Gru, if neither have their equipment and its just them Gru could still very likely win since he's got training (unless I'm misremembering and so is Megamind)
@DreamyWeegee I can't see the writers intention at all so I may be wrong. But in my opinion Sonic 3 did it better as the quills power had been built up to over the movies. Plus in my opinion Gerald worked better as being unseriousness, as it made Ivos contrasting sacrifice more impactful.