The final 2024 polls included the greatest ever underestimate of the Conservative vote (PeoplePolling 8.4 pts) and the greatest ever overestimate of the Labour vote (Opinium, Redfield & Wilton, WeThink, NumberCruncher Politics, all 6.3 pts). #GE24#politics#stats
@MattBecker82 Well done. I did prove that these were the only solutions, but I had to prove for a>c>1, a>1 c<-1, c<a<-1 separately, all for |b|>1, having already considered all cases with |a|, |b|, |c| <2. Might post if I get the time, but this margin and all that.
There are three families of solutions. One very easy to find, one fairly easy, and one a bit more tricky.
(And then there's the rigmarole of proving that there are no others, which was less straightforward than I'd anticipated...)
#puzzle#puzzles#maths#math
If there are no solutions, why? If there are finitely many solutions, can you list them? If there are infinitely many solutions, can you describe them all?
@Jay42_SD@keiranpedley Yes, my understanding is that polls were particularly accurate overall in both 2018 & 2022: https://t.co/iM39jT068X This poses a question of whether there is some specific issue of polling when Trump is a candidate, and whether pollsters might (over?)correct for that in 2024.
@keiranpedley Do we have any idea how aggressive pollsters are being on trying to correct for underestimates of Trump's vote in 2016 and 2020? Fingers crossed for a Labour 2015 to 2017 type polling effect...
A plot of Labour & Conservative polling errors in all final GB general election voting intention polls, 1945-2024. 2024 polls in red. Data from PollBase (@markpack). #GE24#politics#stats
Finally, an honourable mention to the organisation who published the most inaccurate final poll in UK election history in 2010 (in terms of absolute error), underestimating both Labour & the Conservatives by a collective 15.6 %pts. They predicted a Lib Dem win... #GE24#politics
A plot of Labour & Conservative polling errors in all final GB general election voting intention polls, 1945-2024. 2024 polls in red. Data from PollBase (@markpack). #GE24#politics#stats
Definitely agree with @Dannythefink that GE24 polling miss should be taken more seriously.
But in fairness to pollsters:
- Several averages had Lab at 37-38%, wide on their lead by ~6% not 10. Bad not catastrophic.
- They did pick up late dip in Lab’s vote; it was ignored
CONCLUSION: The consistency of the polling bias towards Labour and against the Conservatives in 2024 across EIGHTEEN final polls from EIGHTEEN different organisations (at least three times as many as in any of the above examples) is unprecedented. #GE24#politics#stats