@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 Children are happiest when they’re not bullied I agreed. If your society allows bullying and discrimination then pls don’t lecture me about morals.
And yeah, i really don’t know what else you can say because you’ve been bouncing around everywhere with no point. So what’s now?
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 1. Huh? How many groups of homosexuals are we talking about and how do they differ? Either you can reproduce or you can’t. Straight couples can have fertility issues so what’s your point?
2. Again, so? Men in general can’t give birth. Again, point?
3. Then make surrogacy legal
@geanmloffi1@ggg_hay93392@johannheyss@sst164228297704 I don’t give a fuckkkkkkk about your beliefs I just want you to be consistent with what you say - either all have same rights or you agree certain groups should have special privileges, which contradict your very first comment
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 1. Great then we should encourage more avenues for children then?
2. Why?
3. All labour can be seen as exploitation, isn’t that what you communists like to preach about? What makes this different?
4. Absolutely. If they’re willing and can do it, why not?
@geanmloffi1@ggg_hay93392@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So what you’re saying is that we have to carve out special exemptions for certain groups of people - the exact same thing you accuse lgbt of doing. The hypocrisy always comes out in the end
@geanmloffi1@ggg_hay93392@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So why bring it up? And why should I care what you like to maintain when you can’t even maintain a coherent point of view? Which one is it - are we all equal or do some groups successfully advocate and obtained special privileges that allow them more rights than others?
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So you don’t care that much about children because if they’re that important to the point we depend on them to have a future then why wouldn’t you legalise surrogacy? Seems like an easy way to fix things no?
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So we went from Mother Nature not intending homosexuality to gay people can’t have children so no contribution to gay people can have children but having children is not that important so we must draw a line. Why should I answer any questions when you can’t pick an argument?
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So we’ve completely moved away from any arguments about Mother Nature. Interesting. When it doesn’t suit you all of a sudden we don’t have to dwell on it. How curious
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 If children will be discriminated against for having gay parents…then teach people not to discriminate and bully for having gay parents…
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So which is it? Do we need children to continue society and therefore anyway to get them is okay or they’re not actually the most important thing and thus having children is not an indicator of whether a relationship is right or wrong?
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So we don’t care about having children then? Cos you started off by arguing gay people can’t have children is justification for discrimination. Then now we switched to yes gay people can’t have children but it’s not right
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 But if it’s so natural and so important why is it so dangerous? Wouldn’t Mother Nature make it easier if our most important goal is to give birth? Dogs give birth to 3-6 puppies at a time why can’t humans do that as well if birthing is sooooo important
@geanmloffi1@ggg_hay93392@johannheyss@sst164228297704 Hmmm…so you’re saying we are all equal but then at the same time certain people can have more privileges than others - because can I discriminate against Christians openly? Can I call on their damnation? Or teach that they’re bad people publicly? Would I have the same rights?
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 1. How did you come to that conclusion? You still haven’t explained what steps you took to come to that argument - care to explain? 2. Do you care about children or not? And if childbirth is so dangerous, then maybe having children isn’t that natural
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 Also, if childbirth is so natural then why did mother nature make it so that having children is such a risk it will endanger their health and life safety? If it’s so natural why is it so dangerous? Curious
@liyngch13631400@johannheyss@sst164228297704 So do you care about children and the next generation or not? Cos it really seems like you don’t. And we were not all descendants of heterosexual LMAO do you know bisexual people exist? Do you know there are plenty of gay men and women who come out later in life but have children