Mateo Montenegro

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@Thomisticae @stephenheiner @MarkEscobar1993 Also the thesis claim that traditional clergy are juridically laypeople, which ridicules even more that absurd reasoning

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@LouieVerrecchio Comments talking about the auto-fabricated novelty of “non-ruling jurisdiction” (aka “sacramental jurisdiction”) in 3, 2, 1…

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@austinemarie777 @FrLavery @Aloysius_Saint No, those faculties come from the law (i.e the tacit will of the last pope) and is exercised only for certain cases for the edification of the church (this is: to establish offices to continue with formal apostolic succesion)

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@austinemarie777 @FrLavery @Aloysius_Saint I don’t deny that they may be some territory missions, but on most of cases I believe that are being created new episcopal offices, that’s why I insist on extraordinary faculties being exercised ad actum for the edification of the Church.

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@FrLavery @Aloysius_Saint @austinemarie777 And about the neccesity of Ordinary Jurisdiction, I think that WM Review already demonstrated the neccesity of that power in their first article about apostolicity.

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@FrLavery @Aloysius_Saint @austinemarie777 About the office: I would say that it is delimitated in a personal way, not territorial, since the territorial delimitation is impossible because of the crisis and all the divisions between bishops itselfs. I think this was the mistake Bp. Vezelis made

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@FrLavery @Aloysius_Saint @austinemarie777 I am not implying that a bishop has a power by itself to give jurisdiction to another, only that he assumes extraordinary faculties through the tacit will of the last pope to appoint another bishop for a particular flock.
I can say other things about this in DM if you want.

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@FrLavery @Aloysius_Saint @austinemarie777 Father, I’ve been thinking on this lastly: Do you think that today when a traditional bishop places another bishop to rule a particular community, he would be exercising this kind of jurisdiction ad aedificationem ecclesiae and thus transmiting ordinary jurisdiction?

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@FrLavery This is modernist ecclesiology, both consist on separating the juridical element with the spiritual.